Not a Trump supporter by any means but this makes me really uncomfortable. Cancel/Deplatform culture is escalating quickly. All is well and good until the tools of oppression turn on you.
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#802i'm not surprised, Democrats are in power, you're going to see a purge throughout all the platforms since most align with the Left politically and now they have cover.
It will be interesting to see if there's a "we welcome different views because our new inclusive culture" platform movement when the power swings back to Republican party.
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#803Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
When I saw the cryptic 1 sentence tweet that he wasn't going to be there, the first thing that came to mind was that he was telling his supporters indirectly that they could do whatever they wanted since he wouldn't be in harms way. So perhaps it is a huge stretch to some, but we need to remember it is also not a stretch at all to many, especially given the recent events. Therein lies the danger.
Trump's critics are always over-analyzing what he says trying to look for secret incitements of violence and nazi dog whistles and conspiracies when reality is much simpler - he's just a sore loser who isn't attending out of spite.
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#804Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are being incredibly naive to think that the people in question are capable of changing their minds on this particular topic at this particular time.
I know Trump supporters, and even they (the ones I know) don't justify his tweets. If Twitter had used numerous previous tweets, I could personally go and argue with those supporters and feel like I was making headway. I don't argue with them to change their mind, I argue with them for the crowd of 5-6 people listening who are on the fence. All of them were just pushed off that fence.
> All of them were just pushed off that fence.
If they were pushed off the fence by this, they would have never landed on the other side of the fence in any case.
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#805Earlier quoted context omitted.
The biggest reason for the timing IMO is the Senate races in Georgia. Now that Dems are in control of all chambers and Biden's appointments (to FCC and others) can go through, net neutrality is safe and section 230 is no longer in danger of being repealed, so Twitter will not face any consequences for the ban.
> 230 is safe Both sides have said 230 needs fixed/removed, if for different reasons. to think 230 can't be removed/fixed now is laughable. https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-section-230-tech-firms... > President-elect Joe Biden has said that he wants to revoke Section 230. When Biden was vice president under Obama, the administration was largely hands-off when it came to the tech industry. https://www.cnbc.com/20…
As an outsider, the situation is quite amusing to see. One side wants to revoke 230 so that the tech companies would stop policing content. Another side wants to revoke it so that the companies would police more content instead.
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#806Earlier quoted context omitted.
Negative 2nd / 3rd order effects were inevitable when they made the "newsworthiness" carve-out in the first place. One rule for the king and one for the commoners isn't a very sustainable policy.
Trump was democratically elected (by commoners). Twitter was built with wealthy private investor money. The fact that Twitter banned many of the commoners who elected Trump, but couldn't ban Trump himself until now due to the fear of public backlash is a testament to how anti-democratic it is to have private control over the national means of communication.
> private control over the national means of communication
Nobody was forcing the president to use twitter to communicate. Now he’ll have to find a different platform.
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#807I think one has to consider this event not as an isolated decision based on two tweets, but a series of events that have escalated over time. Just like Twitter can decide to give everyone, even those whose opinions we don’t like, (as they are a private enterprise) a voice, they can also decide to cut short those that go too far. I welcome the decision, but I also tend to agree with those saying it’s “too little too late”.
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#809I wish to remind everyone citing 1st Amendment that Jack Dorsey of the Twitter Party was not elected to Congress.
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#810this in itself is a dangerous precedent for censorship at the request of the twitter management.