Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.
That private businesses can keep people off of their properties?
Today, Twitter. Tomorrow, FiOS.
Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
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#152Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
Yup and it might backfire in twitter's face because now apparently there is a mass exodus of conservatives going to platforms like parler. It is very likely that Trump will switch platforms and that will bring pressure on the stock price.
I sold my TWTR shares and advise others to do the same.
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#153This ban seems to heavily take advantage of the current moment, as it's obvious that he has tweeted worse things in the past. It's strange that they picked such a poor way to justify the ban when they could have made a significantly stronger case, and in doing so could have convinced millions more people that they are trying their best to apply policies evenly. For example, I have a hard time imagining why they chose…
You are being incredibly naive to think that the people in question are capable of changing their minds on this particular topic at this particular time.
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#154This is not a good idea. Whatever you think about Trump, he is still holding public office.
It is a bad idea. And it seems coordinated with a parler ban at app store level and a purge of other political figures. It just begs for a counter move. He is still the president, not all out of options.
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#155Twitter talked past the sale. If they had just said 'We banned this account.' we all would have moved on.
Instead they justified it with some very, very weak and flimsy interpretation of his last posts. I am no Trump supporter and I want him out of office asap, but Twitter managed an unforced error on the simplest layup ever.
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#156Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
In light of everything that's happened this week, I think the first tweet could easily be interpreted as having been intended to further stoke his followers' outrage. The 2nd tweet, while somewhat factual, I think also came off as incendiary and divisive. What excuse does he have at this point for not attending the inauguration other than to make yet another spiteful statement to increase tensions and, therefore, incite more violence?
The full comments in the post detail similar reasoning.
Update: As many people have pointed out (and as the Twitter post mentions), the 2nd tweet could also be interpreted as emphasizing that it would be safe to commit further violence at an event that he won't be attending. This is certainly a much more grave concern than the one I mentioned above.
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#157Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump
#158Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
No, those are what reality-based analysis looks like. You don't just pretend your principles control the world, you look at the way the world actually works.
Words are never in a vacuum. The way they are interpreted matters. And it's false to claim you can't control how people are going to interpret what you say. Especially not when you've spent years training particular subgroups to interpret things exactly the way they are.
This move is long overdue. Trump has been using this sort of language to promote stochastic violence for many years. It's not to Twitter's credit that they had to see the Capitol building overrun by insurrectionists before understanding that it's real and has been going on for years.
But the analysis of the effect of those specific tweets is accurate.
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#159Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.
My take, and I hope I’m wrong, is they want to set a tone for a clear agenda. It goes back to the early XX century when when you wanted to control people you ensured taking over the media first and foremost.
Can someone explain what the XX century is?
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#160I don't have a horse in the game - but I feel this will only deepen the divide in US politics. Trump and his followers aren't going to disappear. They will be even more isolated in a new site/app they setup and without this level of public scrutiny. This is an impossible position for Twitter either way.