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Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#111

Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

It's extremely weak, but that doesn't matter. Twitter has been wanting to do this for a very long time. This was the perfect catalyst and they're going to be lauded for doing so by the left.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#112

Finally ... ding dong the witch is dead. I would like to know how much revenue Twitter and Facebook made off of this POS. Doubtful we will ever hear such things.

I think the extremely online political junkies vastly overestimate the amount of money Twitter derives from Donald Trump's tweets. Most people just use Twitter to follow their friends and celebrities and don't hang on to his every word. They were mostly refraining from taking a harder line on Trump because they were worried about retaliation from the Republicans. Now that Trump's out office and the Democrats control…

Maybe not directly, but there's no denying that he drives engagement metrics from all sides. Engaging products are stickier, and thus drives product teams intensely to continue doing so.

Of course we've seen intense polarization because of this, but all that aside it's easy to see why a company beholden to shareholders would hesitate for so long.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#113

If no tv network will carry his remarks live, and no social network will give him a posting account, then he has no way of communicating with the American people and it seems pretty difficult to make the case that he is able to carry out his duties. So I guess what I'm saying is: invoke the 25th amendment because he got kicked of Twitter.

Several presidents managed before Twitter, TV, or electricity.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#114
post #88

Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

They didn’t just look at the tweets; they looked at how they’re actually being received. I think that’s a crucial distinction.

I'm receiving your benign post in a harmful manner. What should we do in this situation?

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#115
74 million voters. This is not going to play out well. There's really no coming back from this moment, the technocratic elite have changed American democracy forever. Edit: I mean this in the way Snowden tweeted yesterday, it will be interesting how this plays out for better or worse, but it is a monumental policy shift that will be a date marked in history books.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#117
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Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.

That box was opened long ago.

Not too long ago. I think the Pandora's box is that the social media companies really had a choice of two universes:

* A world where they weren't the arbiters of truthiness, and were a place that supported 'free speech'.

* A world where they decide what posts to show, and it's their job to moderate the platform.

The decision to take the second approach is actually a pretty recent development. These companies can no longer hide behind the 'we are just a platform for free speech' line of thinking, because they have now decided that's not what they are about.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#118
post #52
post #28

Me thinks this will have huge implications for big tech. A Pandora’s box was just opened.

That private businesses can keep people off of their properties?

Big tech has gotten away with the monopoly-but-not-abuse-of-monopoly argument for a decade because the platforms were free and available to everyone.

If the second point is not true anymore... it's going to start getting regulated like a utility. Your electric and phone providers can't simply decide to stop serving people it doesn't like, and likely, Twitter won't either.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#119

Is it just my perception, or is their actual justification using the 2 quoted tweets kinda weak? Interpreting his boycott of an event as a call to violence seems like a huge stretch. It seems like they wanted to shoehorn a justification using his 2 latest tweets when the actual reason goes back further.

My take, and I hope I’m wrong, is they want to set a tone for a clear agenda. It goes back to the early XX century when when you wanted to control people you ensured taking over the media first and foremost.

Re: Permanent suspension of @realDonaldTrump

#120
He was already in the process of ditching Twitter for a right wing platform. Twitter dragged their feet for so long because they didn’t want a competitive platform to take his audience. This isn’t Twitter suddenly finding their morals, they have little to lose now that he is moving on.
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