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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by gremlinsinc »

Exuma wrote: post #242
oceanplexian wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you use words such as seditious and mob, I want to remind you that words have power and that those words don’t unify but rather tend to divide and amplify hatred on both sides. There were many instances where protests got out of hand this summer and courthouses and police stations were destroyed; entire city blocks were taken over and those responsible enacted and enforced their own laws. The actions weren’t ref…

I don't disagree the problem is the left has so many examples that this hypocrisy is just excruciating to me. You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump, praised and lauded by some political people high up on the food chain. I rarely ever see the left actively support an ACTUAL view of "unity," and believe me, I truly look for it by looking at all opposing views on my social media…

> You literally have people creating lists to blackball anyone who supports trump

Like the way Clarence Thomas's wife made lists of people not loyal to Trump to be fired?

"Axios first reported that a "well-connected network of conservative activists" is drawing up lists of officials they perceive to be anti-Trump, who are then flagged to be fired and replaced with Trump loyalists."

https://www.axios.com/trump-memos-deep-state-white-house-ce5...

https://www.businessinsider.com/ginni-thomas-wife-supreme-co...

Seems to me a certain leader followed this same playbook circa 1939.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by Dylan16807 »

zionic wrote: post #357
bythckr wrote: post #315

This is not an original idea/thought that I have, but feel repeating it is vital: This whole censorship crusade that the Facebook, twitter & now reddit is on is a dangerous precedence we are setting for our society. Whatever they call it, this is censorship. Already due to AI suggesting similar contents on services like Facebook & Youtube and the design of sub-reddits on reddit, we have living inside echo chambers. A…

-Don't like it? Make your own subreddit/group/discord! X -Don't like it? Make your own image host! X -Don't like it? Make your own social media! X -Don't like it? Make your own aggregator! X -Don't like it? Make your own cloudfare/hosting provider (you are here) -Don't like it? Make your own ISP! -Don't like it? Make your own banking/payment infrastructure! Edit: TIL HN doesn't support emoji

I feel like 2-4 are all on the same level?

Make your own group: valid

Make your own site: valid

Make your own hosting provider: this one is tricky

Make your own ISP: shouldn't be needed

Make your own payment infrastructure: shouldn't be needed

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by seph-reed »

dboreham wrote: post #402
gfodor wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same. I've long worried lurking there was going to cause more harm than it's worth (for example, by letting me inadvertently slip into extremism) but the ability to predict what happened this week so easily and warn people about it who considered going was well worth that risk. Also I read there they are losing their SSL cert or something, so that might be how centralized, non-legal authority manages to shut them dow…

> inadvertently slip into extremism Hate when that happens..

It's happening on pretty much all sides simultaneously. Most people believe that escalation is a means to an end. It's not, resolution is made through mutual understanding and not vilification.

I'm not preaching tolerance here, but the more you understand your opponent the more you approach the inevitable conclusion: people are creatures of convenience, rarely going out of their own way for the sake of concepts like good or evil. If you want to change the way people act, the only way to really do it is to change what is convenient for them. Or to take certain conveniences away.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by srveale »

ksk wrote: post #221
srveale wrote: post #21

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If the left-leaning subreddits were also promoting hate, misinformation and violence then they would be banned too. It's not favouritism, the "one side" that's being targeted is the side that's breaking the platform's rules.

Which subreddit got banned for promoting the nonsense Steele dossier, and other ridiculous Trump conspiracies like the pee tape?

Those are at worst unsubstantiated, and contain truth like how Russia interfered in the election and Trump's campaign accepted their help. Totally different than something like "the election was rigged", which was tested and failed in court, but still gets shouted from the rooftops, leading to dangerous outcomes like what we saw in DC.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by umvi »

Traster wrote: post #501
0x1F8B wrote: post #467

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> people literally overthrowing the democratically elected government of the US. The hysterics in this thread are pretty rich.

I don't know how many people need to storm the capitol under the instructions of the loser of a recent election before you stop thinking the people commenting on it are "hysterical".

> I don't know how many people need to storm the capitol under the instructions of the loser of a recent election

Not OP, but I will stop thinking people are hysterical if they can provide a single shred of evidence that the people who stormed congress were "under the instructions of [Trump]". A tweet, a video, anything that proves the storming of congress was a pre-meditated move by Trump to stop the electoral count.

Saying "oh, well Trump didn't come out and say it, but he chose dog-whistle terms that activated his sleeper agents" isn't going to cut it.

Also the part that is rich is the implication that a rag tag handful of protestors have the ability to overthrow the government just because they broke into a building for a few hours.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by beezle »

When people (especially children) can't abide by social norms they are shut down. Maybe that is a time out in the corner. Maybe it is being asked to leave the party. Reddit, Twitter, etc are no different. You go to their house, you abide by their rules. If you don't, hard to be suprised when they show you the door.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by drdaeman »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #292
jakearmitage wrote: post #276

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Which facts? Could you elaborate?

There is no proof of material voting fraud or irregularities, for example. If you believe otherwise, you are fabricating a reality. If you communicate these lies to others, you are contributing to a disinformation campaign.

To me it seems that the real core problem is that people believe in their own imaginary realities that are in disagreement with what's considered to be objective facts (let's keep solipsism aside please), and not the speech (ability to communicate ideas) itself.

I mean... why is it that if someone tells me that Sun rises in the west virtually everyone just ignores this as an obvious nonsense, but when someone says... a more nuanced but nonetheless proven-false controversy (I'd intentionally refrain from any examples - even the ones that were already provided - to avoid even a possibility debating any of those), some don't outright dismiss it.

Maybe I'm a weirdo, and maybe it's simply not possible with humans - but I still hope for a society where (argh, okay, let's invoke Godwin's Law) the next Hitler won't happen not because of some speech laws but because simply no one would listen to the lunacies seriously.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by wodenokoto »

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

Alexa rank 2400 global and 400 for US.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/thedonald.win

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by throwaway0a5e »

klyrs wrote: post #496
thatguy0900 wrote: post #390

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Noone cares anymore about the left rioting

That's because they're laughably ineffective and tend to shit their own kitchens. It's also last year's news, a whataboutism to deflect from the actual insurrection that occurred this week.

"Shitting in their own kitchen" got many/most major cities to examine how they allocate police and social service resources just like the protesters wanted.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by viro »

mef wrote: post #469
typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

citation for the top websites by traffic? (not seeing them here https://www.alexa.com/topsites/countries/US )

OP likely posts to the site regularly. An thinks the site is an excellent place full of patriots that just so happens to want to stop an evil ring of pedophiles that just so happen to be filled with all of Trump's political enemies.
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