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Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Do you realize that Apple isn't that popular outside of US and Apple can't kill anything with its actions?

There are Apple stores in 25 countries, and engineering locations in 14 countries. People use all Apple all over the world. The iPhone is massively popular in all wealthy countries and the MacBook dominates amongst developers in almost all of them.

It's about 80/20 iPhone/Android in North America, and in the rest of the world, it's the inverse.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Huh I don’t know. Maybe the $200k salary for entry level developers is exciting? Or maybe it’s the ability to work on a product that is a household name for billions of people?

Working for Facebook doesn't have quit the social capital it used to. Besides there's a such thing as enjoying my and believing the work you do is valuable. If ultimately you can only trave your effort back to ad clicks, that's not very enticing.

You live in a bubble. 95% of the American public would hear that their son “got a job at Facebook” and think he made it. 95% of companies hiring developers would see “worked at Facebook” and move that resume to the top of the pile.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

#103

Anyone who can successfully predict downfall of large publicly traded companies can work for a hedge fund and make tens of millions of dollars a year. Anyone who cannot predict such events can write articles for a magazine claiming otherwise. At least it helps sell their speaking and consulting engagements.

You'd need a few prescient articles under your belt before the hedge fund would hire you, though.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I don’t get the charger whining from people. If you add the price of the charger and the wired earphones to the price of the phone then with inflation it’s cheaper than the handsets were in 2018. I’ve got 7 Apple chargers here as well. This is a completely rational decision which is transitional while we all move to USB-C slowly. Your general point is right but it’s not the state of the company you need to look at bu…

I agree. I got like 10 chargers at home and instead use a wireless charger.

I imagine the people most annoyed about this don't have any, or know that they needed to. (Because you're hogging them all. Way to go!)

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Anyone who can successfully predict downfall of large publicly traded companies can work for a hedge fund and make tens of millions of dollars a year. Anyone who cannot predict such events can write articles for a magazine claiming otherwise. At least it helps sell their speaking and consulting engagements.

It's also pretty naive reasoning. Author thinks a significant enough number of people are going to care? Facebook has survived- no, thrived despite multiple public scandals, some of which were far more substantive than complaining about Apple's privacy policy.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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post #68

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I spent five years golden handcuffed at Facebook and hired a large number of brilliant, driven people there. Most of them are still there because of the obscenely large sums of money Facebook pays to keep them there. Note that Facebook does not do counteroffers, and instead makes sure to keep the best people financially motivated to stay each year.

What do those people work on?

Zstandard is pretty nice: https://github.com/facebook/zstd

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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They can’t hire people with good ideas anymore because as we know money isn’t a great motivator (and besides, there are more ethical companies within 10 miles paying as much or more than Facebook). They can’t hire good people anymore because their mission is naive and their reputation precedes them.

Anecdotal, but I’ve seen several folks get offers from FB and other big tech, and I’ve seen FB throw much more money at people. They also have better perks. I think they know they need to use money to overcome their reputation.

I wonder how long they can maintain that balance though. Zuckerberg is clearly setting himself up to be a Rupert Murdoch for the 21st century.

While I don’t doubt that Facebook be able to attract the talent they need to keep things running, I do wonder when their reputation will insist on some specific moral priors (or maybe a total lack of any).

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I don’t get the charger whining from people. If you add the price of the charger and the wired earphones to the price of the phone then with inflation it’s cheaper than the handsets were in 2018. I’ve got 7 Apple chargers here as well. This is a completely rational decision which is transitional while we all move to USB-C slowly. Your general point is right but it’s not the state of the company you need to look at bu…

I am not sure it's whining. Apple is cutting costs while pretending it's for a larger cause. I might also have 7 chargers, but none of them are for USB-C - the type of the cable that they did include with the box. So I still have to buy a charging brick.

Well you won’t have to next time :)

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Anyone who can successfully predict downfall of large publicly traded companies can work for a hedge fund and make tens of millions of dollars a year. Anyone who cannot predict such events can write articles for a magazine claiming otherwise. At least it helps sell their speaking and consulting engagements.

SOTP suggests FB investors at around $180-$200 could make out nicely even if they split Instagram and Whatsapp. I don’t think there’s a lot of synergy among those three core businesses. In fact, Instagram would be worth a lot more independently (just as Youtube would be worth more operating alone). This is to say not a lot of downside as people may expect from Political scrutiny forthcoming. My two cents.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Huh I don’t know. Maybe the $200k salary for entry level developers is exciting? Or maybe it’s the ability to work on a product that is a household name for billions of people?

Working for Facebook doesn't have quit the social capital it used to. Besides there's a such thing as enjoying my and believing the work you do is valuable. If ultimately you can only trave your effort back to ad clicks, that's not very enticing.

A person would have to drink an awful lot of kool aid to think their work at Facebook is valuable to anyone but the Facebook shareholders.
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