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Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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another end of the world blah blah blah article. The truth is both are still doing extremely good and FB for sure will not end here. On top of this im extremely disappointed that Apple has the power to take these measures and regulate other companies within their Walled garden. What is US and World identities doing ? Why does it need to be another company with a Monopoly to regulate other ?

in this instance, what measure did Apple exactly take?

give users the option of opting out?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Everyone that "declare war" on Apple either fades into obscurity soon after their 15 minutes of fame, or becomes Apple: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/ki1rvt/samsung_began... "Becoming Apple" in Facebook and Epic's case may mean their own app stores, and both of them are already sort of on their way there.

Not exactly the same situation, but didn't Steve Jobs threaten to kill Dropbox after they said no - i.e. note that Dropbox still exist?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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The idea of doing a public campaign over this is so myopic that I cannot fathom the thinking about it. Who’s going to rally for Facebook? Did they really expected Apple to change this? The ad should scare investors much more than Apple’s move.

They can’t hire people with good ideas anymore because as we know money isn’t a great motivator (and besides, there are more ethical companies within 10 miles paying as much or more than Facebook). They can’t hire good people anymore because their mission is naive and their reputation precedes them.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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another end of the world blah blah blah article. The truth is both are still doing extremely good and FB for sure will not end here. On top of this im extremely disappointed that Apple has the power to take these measures and regulate other companies within their Walled garden. What is US and World identities doing ? Why does it need to be another company with a Monopoly to regulate other ?

Remember when Facebook came up with their own walled garden, and no one wanted it?

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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The idea of doing a public campaign over this is so myopic that I cannot fathom the thinking about it. Who’s going to rally for Facebook? Did they really expected Apple to change this? The ad should scare investors much more than Apple’s move.

They can’t hire people with good ideas anymore because as we know money isn’t a great motivator (and besides, there are more ethical companies within 10 miles paying as much or more than Facebook). They can’t hire good people anymore because their mission is naive and their reputation precedes them.

Tell that to John Carmack, who apparently is quite fine with tainting his legacy and wasting his last few good work years working for Facebook of all companies. And to top it all off, they're going to ruin Oculus, too (where Carmack is working), going by the latest moves in that division.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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Everyone that "declare war" on Apple either fades into obscurity soon after their 15 minutes of fame, or becomes Apple: https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/ki1rvt/samsung_began... "Becoming Apple" in Facebook and Epic's case may mean their own app stores, and both of them are already sort of on their way there.

Not exactly the same situation, but didn't Steve Jobs threaten to kill Dropbox after they said no - i.e. note that Dropbox still exist?

Dropbox is struggling to survive and has resorted to adding "teams" features that no one really wants to live up to their valuation.

Re: Facebook Declared War on Apple, and It Just May Signal the End of Facebook

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I was a big supporter of Apple for a long time and welcomed privacy focused initiatives when they first started making noise a while back.

However since then I’ve become much more skeptical. Apple is no less evil or different; okay, I take that back, they are slightly better but I’m no longer a fanboy.

I don’t think the Apple of today, who carefully monitor what everybody does on their macs and make it difficult / annoying to bypass the Mac App Store, cares about privacy or the consumer as much as they lead us to believe. Steve Jobs cared a lot about privacy, from what I have read, but the current group, whilst highly intelligent and producing great innovative products like the M1, are very much driven by profit and not vision.

Examples include not providing basic accessories with their expensive iPhone products (seriously I spent 1,000 for an iPhone 12 Pro Max for my Girlfriend and there is no wall plug? Give me a break with their environment saving reasons, they could easily donate a lot more money if they really cared about the environment and not try to trick consumers that they are do-gooders).

The more nefarious example is how Apple is pushing paid apps and subscriptions so much on their App Store, since they take a cut. It’s a core part of their services strategy. I don’t see too much ethical differences between selling users privacy for ads and aggressively taking advantage of the average consumer and trying to lure them more and more into more paid subscriptions (many which they don’t need and also are overpriced, but since it’s a monthly charge it is harder to tell).

I am not comfortable with Apple, Facebook, Google, Microsoft and Amazon being so large and controlling the tech landscape.

I’ve used MacBooks for the past 10 years, my next computer will 100% be a Linux.

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