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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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> run transcript on pro which disables most of the worst new features That sounds good! How do I do this? What's transcript?

That's a dang auto correction! https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/

Thanks!

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Well, to be honest I much prefer - and trust - fully automated test pipelines to manuality. It affords more frequent and thorough verification of the final artifacts. The problem comes when the automation is only partial because added at a later stage, and the existing software does not lend itself to testing. The risk there is that some short-sighted line manager will go “YOLO, I have a deadline” and skip the tests…

The other problem with the type of "in the field" testing that Microsoft does is that it can only capture issues that it can physically report back to the head office. I had two separate computers with very distinct hardware that both failed to upgrade to any of the semi-annual Windows releases. They would just get stuck in a reboot loop at the SSD storage driver loading section of the installer, which means that no…

Gah, glitches. Just spent two weeks trying to figure out the sudden seizures a Win10 running on a spanking new T14s. After 15 years of Apple Mac it’s insane, how can people put up with this horror.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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This. I also find it hard to believe how Apple can screw up bigtime with buggy OS releases considering they make and own the full hardware-software stack which has way less variety than what Linux and Windows have to deal with. Mac fans have defended Apple saying that "QA is expansive and they can't afford it" , as if Apple is some low budget indie app developer in an incubator and not this trillion dollar goliath wi…

Well... They aren't wrong on QA being expensive. The real problem though is you can't measure the savings of a prevented problem. Drives most of us that do it for a living nuts, because all the MBA types love metrics, but don't generally have the imagination to take the numbers and go 'Now imagine all those people got bitten by X.' They won't, but if they did, think of the tarnish. Being a QA is the most thankless wa…

>Being a QA is the most thankless way of making the world better imaginable.

As a fellow dev, you might be getting ahead of yourself. I think there are plenty more professions that go thankless and that are actually making the world a better place.

I hope this doesn't offend you but the thankless garbage men or street cleaners on my neighborhood have a bigger impact on my life than the people who do QA on the apps I use on a daily basis.

If github, slack and outlook stop working I basically have that time off and go outside for a coffee. If my garbagemen stop picking up my smelly garbage, then I'm gonna have a pretty bad day.

Again, no offense, just stating the facts.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Has Microsoft acknowledged the problem yet? It's still not listed as a known issue on the update page: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4592438/windows-10-...

Follow up: Microsoft has now acknowledged the problem and the resolution is documented on the update page.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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I help run a service that uses hundreds of Windows boxes, and at any one time two or three of them always seem to have a borked windows update state. Recovery is utter fucking voodoo, and it's usually better to flatten a machine than attempt to repair things. A while back I installed a couple racks of shiny, new, absolutely identical servers (except for MAC addresses) with factory-imaged operating systems, and had tw…

"How do you even do that?" I would guess it's something like non-deterministic order of patch installation. Which seems easy to end up doing even if you think it's deterministic. For example, some patches don't finish install until boot time, so unexpected reboots could bork things. Or things like "can't install this patch while X software is running" , etc.

Why bother with patches then, just send the latest version. Now that Microsoft doesn't even support partial updates anymore, it's the rolling release train or nothing.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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I've had pretty much the same experience as you. Honestly, linux runs faster uses less resources and is infinitely customizable. If anyone's work allows them to make the switch (eg. No hard dependencies on windows) then consider doing it, it is absolutely worth it.

Lately I've had great experiences with running any windows programs on linux in wine. It seems to have really matured a lot. There are some issues with my tiling wm but other than that zero problems.

Fortunately I've been able to find native alternatives for almost everything. If it wasn't for games and Winamp I'd probably not bother installing wine. (Winamp is the only player I've found that I can get midi files to play to my Roland UM-ONE).
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