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Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

Yes. Every MacOS update is a shitshow of things that stop working. My company always have to send out a message to everyone asking them not to update when a new OS version is out, until it's been tested some more. Always break something.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#143

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I've seen the same. In fact my Arch Linux laptop seems way more dependable than my 2016 MBP, so much so I switched my work MBP for an Arch setup too. I'm actually seriously thinking of replacing macOS with Windows on the MBP, which is not something I'd ever consider back in the Snow Leopard days.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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HP's drivers are the worst I came across. We got HP Elitebook notebooks at work a few years ago and replaced them with Lenovo and Dell because the HPs kept crashing and slowing down over time. Their "utility" software like HP Sure Click slowed the whole system down and turned into nagware. There were at least 3 HP programs hogging the tray area and made discovery of my actually wanted tray icons hard. On top of that…

Yes, HP seems really like worse machines. I just set the max. CPU to 80% because of the costant fan noise. He is quiet now but also slower (of course). Also just the sound driver is around 500MB in RAM, serious? Lucky me I have 32GB. Since I work in a large company, I have nothing to say about the computer brand. At home I'm a happy Fujitsu user since many years.

ZBook 15 here (2014) and no such problems. I always used it with Ubuntu so they seem related to Windows. Strange because one expects that HP optimize their hw and sw for Windows.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Enterprise version (LTSC) hasn't had a feature update since November of 2018. Only security updates.

LTSC really is the way to go for a stable windows experience, unfortunately there's no legal way for consumers to get licenses without a much larger investment than what a home or pro license costs. You can meet in the middle and run transcript on pro which disables most of the worst new features.

> run transcript on pro which disables most of the worst new features

That sounds good!

How do I do this? What's transcript?

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#146

People always seriously frown at me when I say I disable Windows updates. I've never had any problem stem from it, and I've bypassed all the homegrown issues.

Finding out how to do that is a quest on its own unfortunately.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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I don't really know if this is a head's up comparison -- Apple maintains very tight control over their hardware compared to Windows. So you're trading off, in that Microsoft has to manage an ecosystem with much greater complexity, but you have a blessed path for using Nvidia graphics cards.

This. MacOS fans will sing praises of Apple, while discounting that Apple messes up even though they have very few hardware types to service compared to Windows. And they still screw it up big time - I haven't moved to BigSur for this reason. That being said, Windows 10 cannot be in the business of "ship and keep calm", due to the number of businesses and governments relying on Windows.

This is what I tell every macOS user looking to try Linux. Pick hardware that is officially supported.

In every Linux thread on HN, macOS fans seem to disregard the fact that Linux has to support so many more hardware configs entirely. In fact they'd compare the experience of them installing Ubuntu on a $300 Best Buy laptop they got for $150 on Black Friday and wonder why the experience isn't up to par compared to their 2019 decked out $3000 MBP.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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Are people seeing ads in Windows 10? I often hear this, but I've never seen an ad (except MSFT's own ads getting to to try its new Edge browser.)

Oh, heck yes. Can I count the ways? - The Start Menu shows "suggested apps" by default - On first install/boot, the Start Menu is preloaded with about 10 sponsored apps, and many of them install automatically even if you don't click them. - These sponsored apps have a tendency to reinstall themselves _even after you just uninstalled them_ if you haven't rebooted your computer at least once or twice after first boot u…

It seems Windows is becoming a platform to sell you other services.

macOS has the same issue but is not so far down the road.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

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post #48

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I don't really know if this is a head's up comparison -- Apple maintains very tight control over their hardware compared to Windows. So you're trading off, in that Microsoft has to manage an ecosystem with much greater complexity, but you have a blessed path for using Nvidia graphics cards.

This. MacOS fans will sing praises of Apple, while discounting that Apple messes up even though they have very few hardware types to service compared to Windows. And they still screw it up big time - I haven't moved to BigSur for this reason. That being said, Windows 10 cannot be in the business of "ship and keep calm", due to the number of businesses and governments relying on Windows.

This. I also find it hard to believe how Apple can screw up bigtime with buggy OS releases considering they make and own the full hardware-software stack which has way less variety than what Linux and Windows have to deal with.

Mac fans have defended Apple saying that "QA is expansive and they can't afford it", as if Apple is some low budget indie app developer in an incubator and not this trillion dollar goliath with insane margins.

Re: Windows 10 20H2: ChkDsk damages filesystem on SSDs with KB4592438 installed

#150

This article immediately reminded me of a video I saw a while ago.[1] The long and short - MS basically laid off the staff that tested Windows, and much of it is automated nowadays (I bet the MBA educated executive at MS who was responsible for that got PHAT bonus, at the expense of Windows customers and laid off testing staff, of course). Seems like it happened in 2015, which is why it seems that windows updates hav…

I know we're basically comparing anecdotes, but I've been surprised at how much more I've come to trust my windows workstation than my Mac in the past few years. I can't actually remember the last time my Windows workstation crashed outright (if ever?) but my Mac locks up at least 2-3 times per week. I also have to be extremely careful to avoid high memory pressure under Big Sur now, otherwise Finder spirals into a r…

I get the feeling those issues are over on the Mac now. Over the years I’ve had issues that are shockingly similar to my PC stuff on the Mac. I have concluded this is possibly the underlying architecture complexity. Most of the PC architecture that is shared is a massive stack of sticky tape and string piled up over the last 20 years and I think that leaks out into the OS. I’m surprised it works for any vendors at all. It’s not as if Linux doesn’t have a ton of problems in that space either.

The only thing I can say is that with the M1 Mac mini I have it’s the only computer I haven’t found any issues with at all yet and I’ve been using it since November 26th 100% of the time. Absolutely no issues at all.

Now windows is mostly reliable from the hardware side of things I’d you are lucky but the software is broken as fuck. Nothing works reliably or consistently. For over a month now Alt-tab on 20H2 has been randomly changing window ordering as an example breaking over 20 years of muscle memory. Their own mail client stops receiving mail twenty times a day. I’m not even going to start the book-sized rant on how unreliable their development stack is. And yesterday I spent an hour trying to delete a file which wouldn’t go away. It’s just motivational poison at the end of the day. Death by a thousand paper cuts.

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