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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

Legion wrote: post #377
iends wrote: post #267

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They are going the No Man's Sky route. An incredible game years after it was released.

People always reference No Man's Sky and praise the state it eventually made it to, but even that updated state was not the game that was promised and hyped pre-release. Some of the "missing features" were eventually implemented, but MANY were not. Instead, they pivoted into implementing different things that were not part of that initial hype cycle, and implemented enough of them that they hoped people would forget…

What was No Man's Sky meant to be?

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by theshrike79 »

blhack wrote: post #363
jamesgeck0 wrote: post #327

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Deus Ex puts the player in an extremely small, dense area where they have tons of options. The game reacts to the way the player approaches each situation, sometimes dramatically warping the story depending on what they do.

So does cyberpunk 2077 feel like I'm on a sortof "track"? Like I basically have to follow the story?

At the moment, the best CP2077 experience IMO is just to do the plot missions, maybe a few of the side gigs.

Play it on the easiest difficulty setting just for the plot.

Then shelve it and come back when the first DLC is released and do a "full" play-through.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by theshrike79 »

partiallypro wrote: post #221
aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

I'm interested to see how a new PS4/XB1 runs it vs an old PS4/XB1, I have a first day XB1 and it started bogging down on games a few years ago, so I got new one. The reason I bring this up is that I have some friends with PS4/XB1 consoles that say it's playable with a few bugs...nothing like the videos of potato quality graphics. I can only figure the difference between the two could just be the age of the console/du…

Digital Foundry has video comparisons of both.

Xbox One X runs at a higher resolution than the PS4 Pro. Both are perfectly playable around 25-30fps.

Wouldn't play it on either base PS4 or One S, it's still playable but YMMV if the graphical issues are bad enough to be an issue.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by bird_monster »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #546
namrog84 wrote: post #507

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You fell into a local maxima or made an assumption that got you tunneled visioned. You can definitely have N number of choices contribute to 2 or more endings and still have every choice matter. You can have 100 choices with 3 options, and have all of the make an impact on the ending and still only have 2-3 endings. Or any number of endings between 2 and n (in your case the 12*10^m. Have each choice do a +1, 0, or -1…

The system you describe does not have the property that every choice makes a difference to the ending. Most of them still don't. An internal counter going up, without changing the ending you get, is not making a difference to the ending.

And as I updated my comment, you can ignore what I wrote about endings. Most of the decisions just flatout don't effect the world at all.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by blub »

Barrin92 wrote: post #449
aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

>Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. I think we're living in different worlds or something. This game is exactly like a GTA game, and nothing like Deus Ex. It's an open world game (Deus Ex games are strictly linear with open level design , not narrative, something Warren Spector was extremely adamant about). It's got the…

It's Witcher 3 with a pinch of Deus Ex. As a fan of both, I'm enjoying it.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by Aunche »

tstrimple wrote: post #516
Aunche wrote: post #285

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Any game with full voice acting is going to have certain limitations. Corpo V still grew up with Jackie, and it's pretty common for people from poorer backgrounds to have separate corporate and casual personas.

Also known as code switching. Many people do this all the time in the real world. I know black folk who have two distinct accents depending on the context and audience. Same with many southerners that I know. The drawl becomes a lot less pronounced in "professional" settings. That being said, V didn't grow up with Jackie. They met on a run. Corpo V might have grown up on the street as well, but then it's not really a…

Corpo V never did runs with Jackie before the game. In the Heros sidequest Mama Wells references that they lived under the same roof, though in retrospect that could be referencing the time skip at the beginning.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by farias0 »

ianleeclark wrote: post #532
Kiro wrote: post #524

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What's the difference between Fallout 4 and New Vegas? I thought New Vegas was just an expansion.

New Vegas was a standalone game with expansions of its own. Fallout 4 came after it. A lot of people consider New Vegas to be the only good one to come after the first 2, but I can't commentate on that, as I stopped playing the fallout series after New Vegas and attempting to play Fallout 3.

I wouldn't say New Vegas was the only good one, I thought FO 3 and 4 were fun in their own way. But New Vegas was the only great one, and a benchmark when it comes to 3D CRPGs.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by linkdd »

ihuman wrote: post #550
linkdd wrote: post #536

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Well, in some countries we have laws. In France there is a one week cancellation right. Companies are obligated to refund if asked within that week.

Not Sony https://www.playstation.com/fr-fr/support/store/ps-store-ref... > Après avoir acheté ce type de contenu sur le PlayStation Store, vous avez 14 jours à partir de la date d'achat pour demander un remboursement. Si vous avez commencé le téléchargement ou la diffusion du contenu acheté, vous ne pourrez pas bénéficier d'un remboursement, à moins que le contenu soit défectueux. > After purchasing [games] from Play…

And there is certainly a checkbox "I have read and agree to the terms [...]" that I would not select unless I'm 100% sure that I will keep the game.

How can you be so sure you will keep an unreleased game that you would agree to give up a basic right?

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Post by felistoria »

dawnerd wrote: post #159
aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

I’m over 10 hours in on pc and there’s more than just “some bugs”. This game is still in alpha. I don’t know why people are being so defensive. We were looking forward to a great game and were mislead. I’m personally just gonna hold off on playing anymore until they actually finish the game.

On the other hand I'm 20 hours in with a 3080 and all graphics maxed out. The only bugs I've seen are a couple floating guns and one of the fixers had a weird bug where their cell phone on the table was moving with their hand movements.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by blub »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #455
linkdd wrote: post #450

The whining about this game is becoming annoying. Why are people so entitled ? "But it's not what they promised" don't buy it then "But the game is bugged" don't buy it then "But the game is expensive and it should not be" don't buy it then There are tons of game stores, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM provide a refund policy. Why would you whine about your game ? Just. Get. A. Refund. "But they lied about the game" It'…

> There are tons of game stores, and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM provide a refund policy. Why would you whine about your game ? Just. Get. A. Refund. Uh, what? Until this announcement, SIE flat out refused people getting refunds. On Steam, you have to have played for less than 2 hours to qualify for a refund. Returns become extremely limited or downright impossible for opened physical games. https://www.polygon.com/2020…

This would be a non-story if Sony (and Steam) didn't have such customer-hostile refund policies. Valve in particular had to be sued in several countries in order to accept refunds... they are class A douchebags.
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