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Gary Vaynerchuk: “99.5 Percent Of Social Media Experts Are Clowns” (TCTV)

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Post by jaysonelliot »

garyvee wrote: post #54
jaysonelliot wrote: post #47

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How do you arrive at the conclusion that his follower list is "mostly organic?" It's true that having over 500k followers puts you in the top 700 Twitter users. It's equally true that having over 500k followers does not automatically make someone a "social media expert" (Donald Trump, Lindsay Lohan, & Nicole Richie are in that list - I don't think I'd hire them for social media strategy). Is it also true that you can…

my follow count has no merit,the most I have is that I help build a 60 million dollar a year business ect.. again I didn't want to come at this from a bad place, I was trying to start a conversation that should be had

Well put.

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Post by mquander »

nametoremember wrote: post #66
sbierwagen wrote: post #51

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For a horrifying, timeless moment, I thought you were serious. I thought you were some kind of Paul Carr-level social media twat, and that you genuinely thought that a Chinese restaurant spamming you via facebook rather than via paper was a legitimate advance in technology. Then I looked at your other comments, and realized that I had just been trolled so hard that it had more in common with a religious experience th…

Ok I will play. Firstly, to get this out of the way, your attitude doesn't really belong on HN and these petty arguments don't contribute to the discussion. Let's look at how I believe it is revolutionary for the Chinese restaurant. * They now have an easier, more convenient and better way to contact and be in constant contact with their customers. * They have pretty good data on their customers. Their ages, their ge…

I think the source of the disagreement here is that you use the word "revolutionary" to mean "easier, more convenient."

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Post by dhume »

uurayan wrote: post #62

This is so true, especially in areas outside of the hot tech scenes. Social media is such a buzz word these days you have people coming out of the wood work to cash in on it. These "experts" take advantage of the more traditional companies who are looking to develop a social media strategy simply for the fact they they alway hear about it on traditional media. Most of these "experts" have no social proof or reason to…

when you know absolutely nothing on a subject how do you even know if you're teacher is bad?

Not that this is a complete solution, but I would expect a company getting into social media to have some goals it would like to accomplish in doing so, and it can evaluate a candidate based on past history of accomplishing similar goals. Or maybe having such goals counts as knowing something?

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Post by salemh »

pstack wrote: post #5

Every moron with a social networking account and a college degree markets themselves as a "social media expert" and I take anyone with that label about as seriously as I do anyone who calls themselves a "Tech Crunch journalist" (except, of course, at least Tech Crunch doesn't pretend to be journalism).

Its not a bubble, but being a hot word, and with our horrid economy, many random walks of life and unemployed folks have started 1-2 person "shops" of Social Media consulting. Kudos to them if they add some value, the vast majority trend similar in low performance (just personal experience, nothing more).

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Post by forensic »

VladRussian wrote: post #49
Hawramani wrote: post #44

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One problem is the word 'expert'. When does one become an expert? I had a teacher who said you can't call yourself an economist if you don't have a PhD. PhD's may work for some fields, but not for programming, for example.

PhD. is from science realm. Programming isn't a science, it is a craft. Like in any craft, you have master craftsmen who is able to and have produced masterpieces and you have apprentices and journeymen. There is also CS which is a science, and PhD is completely applicable there. And as expected and normal in any other area, the PhD in the science - CS - isn't automatically means that the holder is a master craftsmen…

PhD is not from the science realm.

The PhD was originally about theology, law and medicine. It was co-opted by scientists less than two centuries ago.

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Post by zbowling »

pstack wrote: post #5

Every moron with a social networking account and a college degree markets themselves as a "social media expert" and I take anyone with that label about as seriously as I do anyone who calls themselves a "Tech Crunch journalist" (except, of course, at least Tech Crunch doesn't pretend to be journalism).

doesn't take a degree.

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Post by fhars »

forensic wrote: post #75
VladRussian wrote: post #49

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PhD. is from science realm. Programming isn't a science, it is a craft. Like in any craft, you have master craftsmen who is able to and have produced masterpieces and you have apprentices and journeymen. There is also CS which is a science, and PhD is completely applicable there. And as expected and normal in any other area, the PhD in the science - CS - isn't automatically means that the holder is a master craftsmen…

PhD is not from the science realm. The PhD was originally about theology, law and medicine. It was co-opted by scientists less than two centuries ago.

The PhD was usually for anything exept the higher faculties theology, medicine, and law, which had the Th.D., M.D. and LL.D. instead.
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