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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by muro »

Hamuko wrote: post #103
aequitas wrote: post #87

I'm playing this game on Google's Stadia and must say I'm impressed and having a blast. Besides some minor bugs this game streams flawless in 4k to my Mac (which technically isn't even a supported platform for the game, but is for Stadia). I bought the game during last weeks promotion with a free Chromecast Ultra and controller, so I would have at least had some hardware for cheap should the game itself suck, but the…

How are you getting 4K on a Mac? I'm also playing Cyberpunk 2077 on Stadia and I've been quite positively surprised by it. However, I'm not really sold on Stadia generally yet. There's definitely some input lag and I can feel my mouse movements being "spongy". I'm also having a hard time driving, but I don't know if that's the input lag or just the game. Also, even if the game is running at the best possible graphica…

Same here, playing on Stadia (4k). I tried it on 3 devices: - windows 10 PC over Ethernet - no lag - MBP 16 over WiFi - lag - pixel slate over WiFi - lag

The lag is not too bad, but still noticeable. I only play on the PC now. I have no idea how to fix WiFi lag.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by Semaphor »

jvanderbot wrote: post #129
aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

Sure, it's not bad as is, but it's bad as compared to what it was supposed to be. "Supposed" being defined by 3DPR themselves. The comparison to Deus Ex is not off. It's got turn-of-the-milleneum AI, zero exploration benefit, and so on. That's not a bad thing, except, of course, it wasn't going to be that way.

> zero exploration benefit

But Deus Ex (The original) had great benefits from exploration.

If it was like Deus Ex with updated graphics, I’d probably have bought it, but it looks more like The Witcher with a Deus Ex paint to me.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by 93po »

aequitas wrote: post #87

I'm playing this game on Google's Stadia and must say I'm impressed and having a blast. Besides some minor bugs this game streams flawless in 4k to my Mac (which technically isn't even a supported platform for the game, but is for Stadia). I bought the game during last weeks promotion with a free Chromecast Ultra and controller, so I would have at least had some hardware for cheap should the game itself suck, but the…

I got a 5g phone recently and still only get around 400kbps on average. Don't hold your breath for it streaming Stadia well

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by falcolas »

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #150
falcolas wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should have never been in there in the first place. No matter how many disclaimers you pop up, you shouldn’t be intentionally showing a seizure-inducing pattern of lights.

I'm not sure there's any evidence to suggest it was intentional. What possible reason could there be for that?

> I'm not sure there's any evidence to suggest it was intentional.

From the original article calling out the problem.

>>>

When "suiting up" for a BD, especially with Judy, V will be given a headset that is meant to onset the instance. The headset fits over both eyes and features a rapid onslaught of white and red blinking LEDs, much like the actual device neurologists use in real life to trigger a seizure when they need to trigger one for diagnosis purposes. ... This is a pattern of lights designed to trigger an epileptic episode and it very much did that in my own personal playthrough.

Emphasis mine.

> What possible reason could there be for that?

Probably for the same reason devs model decapitations and other deadly effects off real world references: using real world lighting patterns that are known to effect the brain adds a sense of authenticity to the world.

Even if the intent was not malicious, the device and lighting pattern are too spot-on to be mere coincidence.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by dogma1138 »

brmgb wrote: post #22
h_anna_h wrote: post #19

I keep reading the worst about cyberpunk on hn but when my soulmate played it (on pc) they really enjoyed it and only stumbled upon very few bugs. As for seizures apparently it had a warning at the start about them.

The press coverage for Cyberpunk seems to be far worth than what you usually see for games similarly bugged at release, especially for a game with good review on PC. Then again, it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review). I didn't really expect less.

Cyberpunk 2077 had a budget of over $300M the flack it's getting is because CDPR is no longer some small time studio that is known for good attitude towards DRM and a very long term support for it's titles.

When your game development costs outclass that of GTA 5 and probably in the ballpark of RDR2 and you release this mess after delaying the game by a WHOLE YEAR you'll get flack because you deserve it not because you are Polish.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by gchamonlive »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #140
aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

> It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Well, or if you're the type of person who can be happy playing Doom or The Witcher 3 on Switch. Which I assume is a substantial number of people—they keep porting those types of games to the Switch, which means someone has to be buying them. Watching the…

On 720p the TAA and post processing are already on their limit. On 540p it would be gta-vice-city-motion-blur level unbearable

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by jvanderbot »

Semaphor wrote: post #162
jvanderbot wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, it's not bad as is, but it's bad as compared to what it was supposed to be. "Supposed" being defined by 3DPR themselves. The comparison to Deus Ex is not off. It's got turn-of-the-milleneum AI, zero exploration benefit, and so on. That's not a bad thing, except, of course, it wasn't going to be that way.

> zero exploration benefit But Deus Ex (The original) had great benefits from exploration. If it was like Deus Ex with updated graphics, I’d probably have bought it, but it looks more like The Witcher with a Deus Ex paint to me.

Not in the "open world" sense. I think a lot of people were expecting a more open world, but in this case, there just wasn't much to do in that world (from what I can tell).

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by leetcrew »

aranelsurion wrote: post #115

I think most of the negative sentiment against Cyberpunk 2077 comes from three sources: 1) Some players expected this to be cyberpunk-themed RDR2/GTA5. It turns out it's nothing like that, it's more like a new Deus Ex game. 2) It just doesn't run on consoles. It's a very inferior experience, unless you're the type who can be happy with 2020 movies in .3gp format in your old Nokia phone. Having watched a video ( https…

I'm enjoying the game too and I was defending it in a thread the other day. but now that I've gotten past the intro arc, I'm noticing a lot more issues. mostly just little stuff like NPCs warping around in the background, a suitcase levitating in place when it should be in jackie's hand, objects clipping through walls that can't be picked up. doesn't break the game, but it does take away from the immersion.

I did encounter one more serious issue. there's an early main story mission where you have to get a key off the body of a guard you just killed. unfortunately, I killed the guy while he was standing in an elevator. his body fell through the floor and (presumably) out of the map. at least the game managed to showed me a waypoint to his body, 1 km below my feet. this just seems like bad judgement by the devs. if you have to have moveable ragdolls, please don't put items on them that I need to advance the game. stuff like this will inevitably happen.

anyways, I'm still enjoying the game but I'm debating whether to shelve it for a month or two while they patch more bugs.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by effry-much »

ojnabieoot wrote: post #111
PestoDiRucola wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well Eastern-European countries are notoriously xenophobic and misogynistic. Poland recently outlawed abortion for instance.

It’s true that Central and Eastern European governments have lagged behind North America and Western Europe when it comes to sexual freedom and LGBT rights, and that reactionary views are more widespread in those societies. The problem is that the Republicans in America is exactly as misogynistic and anti-abortion as Law and Justice in Poland. It is quite likely that Roe v Wade will be turned over in America in 2021.…

I think you are just full of shit. Whether you like it or not, the 'woke culture' will end sooner than later, and we will have a full pendulum swing back to the good old game.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

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Post by aequitas »

chaostheory wrote: post #145
aequitas wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really lucky we got fiber connected a few weeks ago, I'm in the Netherlands so broadband is pretty decent overall, but in rural area's connection options lag behind. I tried the game Control streaming demo on a Switch on my previous connection (15/1Mbit DSL with 30/30Mbit 4G backup, avg 30-50ms ping) and though it did work, but it was far from how I experience Cyberpunk now. I wouldn't have bought into streaming…

In the US, poor internet is mainly due to political reasons. We have a duopoly when it comes to telecoms and ISPs. I’m still disappointed that Google gave up on a nationwide Google Fiber rollout.

W're heading to a duopoly here as well, but stuff used to be pretty regulated. So w'll have to see where w're heading, but I think regulators/politics will pick up the pace in a few years again. Also it's not as big over here, you can compare our entire country to a American big city metropolitan area. Rural here is maybe 2-5km from the nearest city.
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