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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#81
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While I do have immense sympathy for the devs, it does bother me that none of them blew the whistle. Many, if not most, should've known that this game was nothing like what was promised, and practically unplayable on PS4 or XBONE. Yet they said nothing.

And possibly lose their job during a massive pandemic? It’s hard to be a whistleblower.

Retaliation against whistleblowers is illegal.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#82

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> it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review) The Guardian righty criticized Cyberpunk for misogyny and xenophobia. The idea that these concerns are just some quirk of Anglo-American culture which is alien to Poles is an idiotic, offensive, condescending assertion which manages to be equally wrong about…

No it isn't. Those concepts are a fetish of a very small (yet influential) group of people residing exclusively in the West. 90% of the world doesn't care. And as a Polish person myself, I can assure you this is not a condescending and not wrong about Poland at all. And just because you are offended it doesn't make you right.

You have no women in your society concerned with misogyny? I know for a fact that isn't true as I work closely with several Polish women (residing in Poland). Perhaps they are not representative of others, but I doubt very much Poland is free from misogyny and that women don't care either way. The idea that 90% of the world doesn't care about something that affects 50% of the population is a reach.

And the idea that nobody cares about xenophobia also seems unlikely. It's a less diverse country, sure, but the debate around migrants in Poland have been public and at times quite emotive. Maybe it's all smoke no fire, but it when Jaroslaw Kaczynski helped the PiS rise to power while denigrating migrants throughout, you can't help but be doubtful that xenophobia isn't meaningful to some of those smaller pockets of non-native Poles in your country.

EDIT: I do not know if these concerns are merited within the context of the game itself. I have not played Cyberpunk 2077. I only take issue with your belief that misogyny and xenophobia are of no concern to people in central or eastern Europe. It sounds like an opinion of someone without such cares personally, not someone who can attest that such cares are unwarranted.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#84

I'll be interested to see whether the Stadia version is more like a console experience or more like a PC.

Publications already indicated that the Stadia version is good, if that is what you are alluding to.

"It may be hard to believe, but the Google Stadia version of Cyberpunk 2077 may be the best way to play for most players right now. Unless you have a 20 or 30 Series Nvidia GPU or comparable AMD card or you were lucky enough to get a PS5 or Xbox Series X / S, this game will not be performing anywhere close to how it was designed to."

https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/10/22167303/cyberpunk-2077-...

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#85

This is incredible, and must be devastating for the development team, especially after all that crunching. As someone who's worked on a (digital-only) title for Xbox One, I'm surprised this game got through the certification process in the first place. From our experience the platform holders are pretty involved, and we regularly gave MS updates on everything from monetization, to UX and controls, to extensive review…

What I read, and apparently it was discussed on the CDPR emergency board meeting, is that Sony and MS trusted CDPR to correct the issues and have the game in a good state prior to launch. Seems they failed at that pretty badly.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#86
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review) The Guardian righty criticized Cyberpunk for misogyny and xenophobia. The idea that these concerns are just some quirk of Anglo-American culture which is alien to Poles is an idiotic, offensive, condescending assertion which manages to be equally wrong about…

As someone in a central european country, I can confirm, you are wrong, and we don't care what LMBFQQUBDSBDSAH letter is the fashion today. You have every right to be offended by that, I don't really care.

Do the LMBFQQUBDSBDSAH people in your country care?

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#87
I'm playing this game on Google's Stadia and must say I'm impressed and having a blast. Besides some minor bugs this game streams flawless in 4k to my Mac (which technically isn't even a supported platform for the game, but is for Stadia). I bought the game during last weeks promotion with a free Chromecast Ultra and controller, so I would have at least had some hardware for cheap should the game itself suck, but the game is fun as well. I also no longer have any doubt that streamed gaming has a future and am actually looking forward to 5G coverage so I can play on mobile.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#88
post #22

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The press coverage for Cyberpunk seems to be far worth than what you usually see for games similarly bugged at release, especially for a game with good review on PC. Then again, it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review). I didn't really expect less.

> it's a Polish game from a studio with no American office and apparently with little regard for the current trend in American culture (cue The Guardian review) The Guardian righty criticized Cyberpunk for misogyny and xenophobia. The idea that these concerns are just some quirk of Anglo-American culture which is alien to Poles is an idiotic, offensive, condescending assertion which manages to be equally wrong about…

Well Eastern-European countries are notoriously xenophobic and misogynistic. Poland recently outlawed abortion for instance.

Re: Cyberpunk 2077 Refunds

#89

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And possibly lose their job during a massive pandemic? It’s hard to be a whistleblower.

Retaliation against whistleblowers is illegal.

Typical developer is not allowed by contract to say anything related to the product externally. They are just respecting a contract they signed.
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