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There is a note regarding time zones at the bottom of the page: "All times are shown in your local timezone unless otherwise noted."
Which timezone is my local timezone? A bunch of geolocation systems think I'm in Paris. I'm in Melbourne. (My ISP bought an IP block that used to be registered to a French company). That's a considerable difference.
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#112If this had happened on self hosted email server, people would be claiming "this is why you don't self-host email". My company self hosts email and we have never had an outage of this sort. ever. All support emails to gmail accounts are now bouncing for us. It's also been more than 2 hours since this problem started.
The analogous claim here would be: “This is why you don’t entrust critical services to third parties.”
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is another good reason to have email @yourowndomain.tld When this happens, you can spin up a temporary server and have a mechanism in place to redirect email so you don't go down when your provider does.
I've had way more downtime trying to run my own domain's mailserver for a year than I have with gmail for more than a decade.
> When this happens, you can spin up a temporary server and have a mechanism in place to redirect email so you don't go down when your provider does.
Use a commercial provider, but fall back to your own server when it goes down without changing your email address.
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In lieu of an actual Googler, how about some educated speculation? It blows my mind that Google can even have problems like this. Aren't their apps highly distributed across tons of CDNs? Don't they have world class Devops people that roll out changes in a piecemeal fashion to check for bugs? How exactly can they have an issue that can affect a huge swath of their customers across countries? Insight appreciated.
Software isn't as simple as splitting across different locations to prevent global failures.
It should not be a problem that gmail is "down". Unless this would be happening for more than a few days, noone would lose e-mail. It's a problem that it's not returning a temporary error code, but permanent one.
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#116Side note: Love the 2010-era web design. Wtf happened? Everything got bloated, buttons got huge and whitespace took over the screen real-estate.
Money
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> this page is readable Not easily so on mobile - the need to zoom multiple times and scroll in 2 directions to read simple information is a PITA.
Because it's not for mobile. Engineers who look at this tend to work from a computer.
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Yeah, I like rich, data-heavy, information dense desktop displays. Mobile UIs are such garbage, not to mention shit like reddit that only is able to process a request 30% of the time.
Agreed. it drives me absolutely berserk that Reddit forces you to "Click to view more comments" just to see like 3 more comments.
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#119What is a status page that has the time without timezone
There is a note regarding time zones at the bottom of the page: "All times are shown in your local timezone unless otherwise noted."
Edit: Apparently it's browser settings, which means you need scripting enabled for this page.
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#120As quite a few googlers appear to read and write on HN, I'd really welcome an insider info on what's going on the last few days. Sure there will be some internal turmoil going on right now, but isn't there some non-confidential info to share? Can't imagine this will hurt the image of google neither in the short nor long run, quite the opposite.
The question is what exactly is the new “feature” that got pushed skipping canary is.