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Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by jamienicol »

mdoms wrote: post #194
haxiomic wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you pinch does it jump between zoom levels in large increments or is it smooth? The large jumping was the old behavior – check about:config's browser.gesture.pinch settings are all empty and not mapped to ctrl+ or anything. I haven't tried on Windows but on macOS the native zoom is smooth and pretty good As a last ditch attempt you could try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-touch-z... But if…

It no longer jumps in big increments but it's still janky and very much non-native.

Why do you mean by non-native?

If it's janky it might "just" be a performance issue. If you could grab a profile from profiler.firefox.com that would be much appreciated

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by shaicoleman »

Sunspark wrote: post #171
Sunspark wrote: post #110

Dear Firefox developers, please fix vsync one day.

Downvotes? Ok, here's another one.. dear Firefox developers, in Google Meet captioning does not display, but does in other browsers.

It's not necessarily Firefox's fault. Google has a long history of making their products glitchy on Firefox.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/former-mozilla-exec-google-has...

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by fwip »

generalk wrote: post #64
eska wrote: post #24

Mozilla FAQ: > Will switching to a different browser allow me to use Flash? >No. Adobe and other browsers will also end support Flash at the end of 2020. Even if you install an older version of Firefox, the Flash plugin itself will stop loading Flash content after January 12, 2021. See Adobe’s Flash Player End of Life information page for more details Adobe: > Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player aft…

I don't have a horse in the Flash race -- it had a ton of issues but also enabled many content creators to deliver over the web in a way straight HTML/JS was incapable of -- and yes, Flash had its time and that time is now over, but yeah. Agree. Disturbing. Flash games and animations were a treat of the early/mid-2000s web, and many folks got their start as creators there. Adobe hasn't just stopped distributing a pla…

You may be interested in watching the Lightspark (https://lightspark.github.io/) project - an open source implementation of the flash player.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by rascul »

bzbarsky wrote: post #180
rascul wrote: post #119

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Does this mean Firefox will ignore my hosts file entry? 127.0.1.12 dev.localhost

Based on code inspection, I believe so, yes. It will map "dev.localhost" to 127.0.0.1.

I wonder if Mozilla overlooked this. IANA has 127.0.0.0/8 reserved for loopback, not just 127.0.0.1.

https://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv4-special-registry/...

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by nine_k »

mdoms wrote: post #198
muizelaar wrote: post #186

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What do you mean by not native? What bugs do you see?

What could I possibly mean by not native other than not native? Bugs from a quick play-around (comparing with Microsoft Edge): * The zoom with touch pad has a weird latency not present in Edge. * Zoom on touchscreen is janky and jumps around. * Zooming in and then out often (but not consistently) stops working half way through the gesture. * Scrolling behaviour while zoomed is wildly different to native apps like Edg…

Cannot confirm any of these points (Win 10 pro, Thinkpad T490p). Everything is buttery smooth, and does exactly what I would expect it to do, both zooming and scrolling. (I only tied the touch screen, though.)

Maybe check your touchpad and touchscreen drivers.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by corty »

distances wrote: post #60
ducktective wrote: post #18

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Basic fear is that it becomes yet another chromium spawn some ~5 years down the line. Recent dramas surrounding FF on Android and unasked-for UI changes in desktop surely didn't win FF any new users...But...I'm still clinging to it.

What's the drama on Android? It's been working great for me for years now.

They broke all addons and made the Tabs and Bookmarks UIs unusable imho.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by JoshTriplett »

IshKebab wrote: post #104
bryanlarsen wrote: post #44

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Firefox is way too valuable as a hedge against Google hegemony to let die. If they ever lose the Google search money hose and become threatened I do expect a Google competitor to realize that and step in with some funding. Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, and I suspect they are starting to realize it. That being said, I only expect it to be maintained at a hedg…

Do you expect a Google competitor to step in with $400m/year of funding though?

Yahoo outbid Google one year, and Firefox duly changed the default search engine for a while.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by BuckRogers »

mdoms wrote: post #198
muizelaar wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by not native? What bugs do you see?

What could I possibly mean by not native other than not native? Bugs from a quick play-around (comparing with Microsoft Edge): * The zoom with touch pad has a weird latency not present in Edge. * Zoom on touchscreen is janky and jumps around. * Zooming in and then out often (but not consistently) stops working half way through the gesture. * Scrolling behaviour while zoomed is wildly different to native apps like Edg…

It will be tough to keep up with Edge/Safari on their respective home platforms going forward. I've been trying to move over to Edge from Firefox on my Windows desktop just because it's clearly the future. Safari works best on my iPhone12 mini. When I get an M1 MBA, I intend to just use Safari.

I haven't been using Firefox for nearly 20 years because of a rendering engine, I've used it because of its features. In the last 20 years, most people have moved from desktops to laptops and phones, native app battery use and performance means a lot more than features.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by bengalister »

chinhodado wrote: post #11

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

It would be bad for Linux users. To my knowledge, it is the only web browser that offers without patching video hardware acceleration.

It works on both Xorg and Wayland.

But TBH, the last few releases from 79 showed some bugs and regressions that affected my user experience. From 79 to 81-82, I had to disable vaapi support otherwise it made video playing stutter.

And in 83, webrender caused some extensions popup Windows to be blank.

I hope Linux Wayland user experience will stabilize. But I switched to Firefox full time on my home laptop thanks to hw acceleration support and also tab containers.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by JoshTriplett »

noncoml wrote: post #182

> Firefox now uses more modern techniques for allocating shared memory on Linux, improving performance and increasing compatibility with Docker. Anyone know any more details about this one?

Firefox now uses memfd_create: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1440203
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