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Re: Firefox 84.0

#11
I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config.

At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year.

What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

Re: Firefox 84.0

#12
“macOS users running Cylance antivirus software may see their Firefox installation get corrupted due to being erroneously flagged as malware.”

I run Firefox Nightly on my work mac (with Cylance) and have been seeing this. Luckily IT have happily whitelisted it and reported back to Cylance, but still slightly weird that a major application would be flagged like this.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#13
post #4

> Additionally we'll ship an accelerated rendering pipeline for Linux/GNOME/X11 users for the first time, ever!

I'm seeing high CPU usage on YouTube after recent updates on Xubuntu. I think it started when they enabled GPU acceleration by default. Previously I could watch even FHD videos without much fan noise, but after recent updates, fans spin at the max speed by playing even 480p quality vids. Anyone else?

GPU acceleration is not a magic bullet it seems. In our case drawing large SVGs suddenly becomes really slow when GPU rasterization is enabled. Chrome has the same problem. I really hope we will see more polishing in this area and maybe a cooperation between Chrome and Firefox developers?

Re: Firefox 84.0

#15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm seeing high CPU usage on YouTube after recent updates on Xubuntu. I think it started when they enabled GPU acceleration by default. Previously I could watch even FHD videos without much fan noise, but after recent updates, fans spin at the max speed by playing even 480p quality vids. Anyone else?

GPU acceleration is not a magic bullet it seems. In our case drawing large SVGs suddenly becomes really slow when GPU rasterization is enabled. Chrome has the same problem. I really hope we will see more polishing in this area and maybe a cooperation between Chrome and Firefox developers?

Thing is, when I play the same video with VLC which uses HW decoding, it doesn't even break a sweat. So I think there might be something wrong on the browser part...

Re: Firefox 84.0

#16

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

I don't see a big comeback for Firefox unless there's a big backlash against the reduced effectiveness of adblocking due to manifest v3 in chrome. It's not like the days where "tabs and ad blocking" were only available in one browser (well two, but Opera was still (a) charging money or (b) including ads depending on the timeframe) and provided a huge incentive to switch from IE. Sync is the closest any browser feature has come to that level in a decade, but all browsers had that pretty quickly.

Mozilla also don't have the brand power to push their browser to people who don't actually care but just want the notification on google.com or youtube to go away, or had it bundled with flash player or their windows install or their AV program like a lot of Chrome's rise.

My hope is it bottoms out and finds a new stable equilibrium at brave/vivaldi levels. The question is if that's a large enough position to actually maintain a browser engine.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#17
I hope they fixed the one thing that has been preventing me from switching to FF as my daily driver. The one thing that I can find a few "fixes" for, but none seem to work for me. Starting up to a frozen window, and then having to open new frozen windows, until eventually a non-frozen window opens. Then having to go clear a bunch of zombie processes out of Task Manager. Happens almost daily, and drives me crazy. /rant

Re: Firefox 84.0

#18

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

Basic fear is that it becomes yet another chromium spawn some ~5 years down the line. Recent dramas surrounding FF on Android and unasked-for UI changes in desktop surely didn't win FF any new users...But...I'm still clinging to it.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#19
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GPU acceleration is not a magic bullet it seems. In our case drawing large SVGs suddenly becomes really slow when GPU rasterization is enabled. Chrome has the same problem. I really hope we will see more polishing in this area and maybe a cooperation between Chrome and Firefox developers?

Thing is, when I play the same video with VLC which uses HW decoding, it doesn't even break a sweat. So I think there might be something wrong on the browser part...

You can issue a bug report on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home Sometimes bugs are fixed really fast, sometimes never. Just give it a try.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#20
post #2

Notable changes are that Apple Silicon support is now stable, and that this is the final release of Firefox to support Adobe Flash.

I had no idea they even still supported Flash?! I thought they changed their plugin API so many times that it would have been unsupported many years ago.

Major browsers can't ditch Flash until Adobe EOLs it. Too many legacy enterprise apps still rely on it, even though they are likely being frantically reimplemented this month. I'm in that boat.
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