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Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by padenot »

ducktective wrote: post #10
antouank wrote: post #4

> Additionally we'll ship an accelerated rendering pipeline for Linux/GNOME/X11 users for the first time, ever!

I'm seeing high CPU usage on YouTube after recent updates on Xubuntu. I think it started when they enabled GPU acceleration by default. Previously I could watch even FHD videos without much fan noise, but after recent updates, fans spin at the max speed by playing even 480p quality vids. Anyone else?

Would you mind capturing a profile? https://blog.paul.cx/post/profiling-firefox-media-workloads/... explains how.

It's very very very simple and quick, there is a video demo and a text explaining what to do, and then you can open a bug at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Core&comp..., with the profile link (you can login with a github account or email). This will be triaged and hopefully we'll understand what's up. Please use a Nightly build or a Mozilla-provided build when doing so (so there are symbols). It's just a matter of downloading and untaring the tarball.

Please also attach a copy of `about:support` raw data (button at the top), so we can understand what your configuration is: desktop Linux systems can be pretty diverse and sometimes it isn't clear what works, what doesn't and why.

If you're playing 480p, then youtube might be serving you AV1, and this is (for now) using the CPU (trading a lot less bandwidth for increased CPU usage), you can check the codec it's using by right clicking on the video and clicking on `Stats for nerds`, there is the codec string. You can adjust your codec preferences in your youtube profile I believe.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by bityard »

CarelessExpert wrote: post #32
eska wrote: post #24

Mozilla FAQ: > Will switching to a different browser allow me to use Flash? >No. Adobe and other browsers will also end support Flash at the end of 2020. Even if you install an older version of Firefox, the Flash plugin itself will stop loading Flash content after January 12, 2021. See Adobe’s Flash Player End of Life information page for more details Adobe: > Since Adobe will no longer be supporting Flash Player aft…

Doesn't concern me. Flash has been on an EOL track for a long time now, and I'm actually pretty happy they're being this aggressive about killing it, as otherwise it could linger on indefinitely, causing security bugs across the web. Why do you find it disturbing?

Plenty of legacy enterprise software which is costly to upgrade still relies on Flash for UI.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by bryanlarsen »

chinhodado wrote: post #11

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

Firefox is way too valuable as a hedge against Google hegemony to let die. If they ever lose the Google search money hose and become threatened I do expect a Google competitor to realize that and step in with some funding.

Microsoft basing Edge on Chromium was a really stupid move on their part for this reason, and I suspect they are starting to realize it.

That being said, I only expect it to be maintained at a hedge level, not enough to shoot for dominance again. Think of it like Valve's Steam on Linux efforts -- it's not a major effort on their part, it's just enough to keep Microsoft honest.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by paulie_a »

jandrese wrote: post #28
stronglikedan wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Major browsers can't ditch Flash until Adobe EOLs it. Too many legacy enterprise apps still rely on it, even though they are likely being frantically reimplemented this month. I'm in that boat.

Depreciation in Firefox isn't going to cause that much corporate pressure to finally rewrite those ancient flash apps. When Internet Explorer drops it then they have a problem.

According to adobe the plugin will stop loading content in January regardless of the browser

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by GNOMES »

Recently switched back to Firefox (Nightly) from being an early Chrome adopter. Really haven't found any issues compared to Chrome. Performance is supposedly worse, but nothing I have been able to notice in my workflow.

Not sure if it's this update or the last, but the added the ability to show the bookmark bar ONLY on the new tab screen ala Chrome's behavior. I can't stand bookmarks as a side panel like the old FF behavior, and not a fan of tree style tabs. Having my bookmark folders on the new screen has been great.

Re: Firefox 84.0

#47

Post by gruez »

ooboe wrote: post #43
Zealotux wrote: post #14

What's the best way to support the browser directly with money? Pay for the VPN?

Donate directly to Mozilla/Firefox? http://donate.mozilla.org/

That supports mozilla foundation, which uses the funds for advocacy, but it doesn't support the development of firefox, which is done by the mozilla corporation.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by speedgoose »

xyzal wrote: post #34
chinhodado wrote: post #11

I love Firefox, I use it everyday, I can't imagine using a browser without Tree Style Tab, or all the things that I can do in about:config. At the same time, I can't shake off the dreadful feeling that it will eventually die one day. The market share keeps falling year by year. What is the most realistic future for Firefox?

I can't understand why they still didn't put a "Support Mozilla" prompt anywhere.

I'm guessing the expected incomes are not high enough to compensate the impact on the brand.

Re: Firefox 84.0

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Post by est31 »

bityard wrote: post #42
CarelessExpert wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't concern me. Flash has been on an EOL track for a long time now, and I'm actually pretty happy they're being this aggressive about killing it, as otherwise it could linger on indefinitely, causing security bugs across the web. Why do you find it disturbing?

Plenty of legacy enterprise software which is costly to upgrade still relies on Flash for UI.

You can always start a VM with flash inside.
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