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It's the same argument as buying digital copies of your Music via iTunes or something vs Spotify. And we all know who won. The convenience of streaming games is too hard to give up
That sounds like an argument against Stadia, which forces you to rebuy all your games instead of just paying for the service like with GeForce Now.
Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux through the Proton compatibility layer
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Re: Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux through the Proton compatibility layer
#292For those talking about a native port, the drama involving The Witcher 2 native port and the absolute negative reaction from Linux users along with the disappointing progress of Steam Machines had made CDPR hesitant to develop for the platform. https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/the-witcher-3-didnt-c...
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Im a huge fan of GeForce now, the quality is fantastic and obviously you just play the games you already own. I don't understand how Stadia can even compete with it, it's just a much worse proposition every which way. But also I'm disappointed GeForce now tops out at 1080p, it's great on my laptop but I'd love to play it on my desktop 2k monitor.
Yeah, I'm a huge fun. I used it to play few games before I got into Shadow, but GFN is better for more GPU heavy games so I'll play CP2077 there. The only downside I see is that there is no Linux client (or a browser one, which they promised) and I need to do a strange setup of: 1. Starting game on Android 2. Connecting bluetooth mouse there (so it won't kick me out because I'm not doing anything on the phone) 3. Sta…
A couple months ago though (if that), they did say Linux support was coming in the form of a browser client, though that's already a thing, you can already use GFN on Linux w/ a chromium-based browser.
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#295Earlier quoted context omitted.
> unfortunately the developer backlash renders it pretty useless since Counter backlash then. You don't have to support people that don't support GeForce Now over Stadia. GeForce Now is no different than renting some server and streaming to another device. > - Shadow: Good quality, good virtual PC specs From what I've heard people are able to play Cyberpunk 2077 with RTX on using GFN (GeForce Now). > Moonlight That's…
> Counter backlash then. You don't have to support people that don't support GeForce Now over Stadia. GeForce Now is no different than renting some server and streaming to another device. Can't really backlash considering I already own the games of those publishers who initially supported GFN and then pulled their games from it :P I already paid for the Mafia trilogy, Fallout & Elder Scrolls, GTA, Red Dead Redemption…
I'm sure they have data analysts that will notice the pattern if enough people are doing this.
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> Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public. What was the justification of ignoring Linux gamers, when you already went through all the trouble of creating the Linux version? Are support costs so high that Linux sales won't cover them after that?
In this case it will be mostly the fact that Ubisoft Connect does not have a Linux client, so it would be hard to get the game to users and keep it updated. Obviously not insurmountable but you're again running into the issue of it just not being worth the cost - the PC sales are tiny compared to consoles, Linux would be just a small percentage of that again.
I was pleasantly surprised to see that Cyberpunk sold more on PC than the consoles combined!
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I don't understand your logic: you'd rather there be no games on Linux at all instead of some working well, some with hacks, and some not working? There is a hypothetical reality where all game developers target Linux natively, but in our flawed reality where economics exist, Proton is a godsend Edit: regarding the "works for me", I see your point but what else would I do? Stay on Windows because some games, not the…
> I don't understand your logic: you'd rather there be no games on Linux at all instead of some working well, some with hacks, and some not working? Other than the false dichotomy. Yes. I would rather not have the game on Linux, than have to rely on proton. > Edit: regarding the "works for me", I see your point but what else would I do? Stay on Windows because some games, not the ones I play, don't work on Linux? Of…
So just ignore it and don't play the game.
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Having native support for Linux seems very fitting to a cyberpunk game, but given the kind of crazy reactions you get from some people in that community when things a. are not open source and/or b. exhibit the tiniest of flaws, it's probably not worth the bad PR they would generate.
This is like saying Red Dead Redemption is like running a farm in Texas. Linux is more popular among techies/programmers/hackers. Cyberpunk is a genre focusing on being cool and special, an attempt to steal computers from introverts and hide the boring stuff they find exciting. It's a computer Wild West. Check out the game 'Duskers'.
Look at the people and works that founded the genre, they looked at REAL stuff and extrapolated, not because the real stuff was boring, but because it was cool as hell and the future stuff would be even cooler as heller. ;-)
Success in such a setting is not determined entirely by the luminosity of ones hair, the gnarliness of ones implants, but also the deep technical understanding of all the boring stuff, it's so deep, and so understood that one can do it swiftly and make it look both easy and cool. What we get to "see" in cyberpunk novels, movies and games, is mostly an abstraction sice we're not that cool dude or dudette, we don't have that deep deep understanding or those amazing skills, maybe we just lack the right implants, but nevertheless, the author is forced to portray some hybrid between the "concept of what's going on" and what observers would see.
Also, Duskers is a great game. Ps I'm a Linux user and I'd love to see more native games for my platform of choice, but I also know that there's a reason I can't always have nice things, and I don't blame anyone for that.
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I'm turned off by the very idea of paying for access to streaming a game. The big players are already doing all they can to convince you you don't buy the game when you buy the game. This will make the situation much worse.
Do you also abstain from going to movie theatres?
I go mainly to the festivals, premieres, sometimes there is a prelection before the screening, or Q&A with the director.
As an aside, this year I enjoyed an Asian film festival at home and was able to see more movies than any other year... 2020 is weird.
I recognize that streaming has its place in the world, but I'd hate it to be the only option, like it is in Stadia model. Also, if you don't buy the game then you shouldn't have to pay like you'd be buying one.
Re: Cyberpunk 2077 runs on Linux through the Proton compatibility layer
#300To be perfectly fair, it’s working on Linux natively. Since it runs on stadia. I was part of the efforts of putting The Division 2 on stadia and it really is “just Linux” for the most part. The elf binaries ran essentially flawlessly on my linux machine (although my machine was under powered for the game.) Sadly we never released the game on Linux to the public.
Having native support for Linux seems very fitting to a cyberpunk game, but given the kind of crazy reactions you get from some people in that community when things a. are not open source and/or b. exhibit the tiniest of flaws, it's probably not worth the bad PR they would generate.