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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Why do you still pay taxes in California? Do you have a residence there?

CA Tax Board is pretty aggressive: if you work for a business located in CA, they want your income.

I recognize this is just my personal experience, but this doesn't hold true for me in the slightest. I grew up and lived in CA for over two decades, but now located in a state with no income tax and employed by a company in the bay area. I pay zero state income tax, as do all my coworkers in the area.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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For maybe 99% of Californians the decision to move or stay is tied to two factors: increasing cost of living and decreasing quality of life. I lived in the Bay Area from 2010 to 2020 and both factors worsened considerably in that time. While Musk’s move may be an indicator of a kind it reflects on largely different factors than those weighed by most people. Most people don’t strain against state bureaucracies to deve…

This is SF small business regulation in a nutshell: a business person who wanted to start an ice cream shop in the Mission neighborhood has spent $100k+ and 16 months dealing with regulatory headaches.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Bi...

Analogous examples can be found for remodeling/construction, etc.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Exactly. By your standards, Bill Clinton was "far right". Excellent example. For the record, I support civil rights protections for all humans, including gays on the basis on sexual orientation. I disagreed then with most of Bill Clinton's policies toward gay rights (I also strongly supported making marriage a uniquely civil institution vis-a-vis government recognition available to all citizens, like France). By the…

If you didn't say it was Obama and polled Democrat's based on his actions/views I'd be pretty confident they'd say "far right".

I'm pretty sure you're right, particularly if you combined the socio-cultural views from his first term and the global military actions of the second.

It's absolutely untethered how far much of the left has moved in 10-15 years. The right has also moved toward the right, but they're much less homogeneous in their beliefs.

This is reflected in polls over time from Pew and others:

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/interactives/political-...

(click "animate" to see to 2017).

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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In general, you are right, the Twitter-sphere is a cancer on civilized discussion. That said, Elon Musk is an active participant and influencer of "F*ck X" culture on Twitter, so he hardly gets a pass when others use that same rhetoric on him. > why can't people in government behave better than this? Likewise, why can't Elon Musk behave better? The answer: Acting the way he does publicly is part of his marketing tact…

Yeah I agree on both counts. I do think people in government should be held to a higher standard. If only for the public’s benefit.

The second richest person in the world should arguably be held to an even higher standard, also for the benefit of the public. I say this as a huge fan of Elon's companies. But dude, just pay your damn taxes.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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The Democratic party is a center-right party. If you are further to the right of them, you are far-right.

I'm going to reply with a comment I made an hour ago. "The far-left managed to create an "amazing" (and terrifying) perspective. If you're a leftist but not as leftist as them, you're a centrist, maybe even center-right which makes everybody on the right to be automatically far-right."

I mean, the Third Way Democrats whole shtick is embracing right wing policies and injecting them into the democratic party. They gained power as a faction in the democratic party around 1992 with the argument that after Reagan changed politics in the US and after losing the presidency for three elections, they argued that the democratic party needed to shift heavily to the right to chase what Americans were looking for. Clinton got for instance got elected on a platform to "end the welfare system a we know it", and gun control (which at the time was a right wing policy because scary minorities were open carrying. Reagan actually passed the law against open carrying, the Mulford Act, stating at the time that there was "no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons"). The explicit goal here was courting center right moderates.

Since then the Democratic Party has continued tracking to the right, with Newt Gingrich and the Heritage Foundation's 1994/94 HEART Act being slightly edited and passed as Obamacare.

This isn't a "terrifying perspective", but literally public statements and accepted political science.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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The average income in California 25% higher than Texas (60k vs 48k), but taxes and costs are more than 25% higher in California. The typical home value of homes in California is $599,159. [1] The typical home value of homes in Texas is $224,065 California sales tax rate of 7.25% is higher than that of any other state, and its top marginal income tax rate of 13.3% is the highest state income tax rate in the country. T…

Just a nitpick, while Texas' state wide sales tax is 6.25%, every local municipality is allowed to tax up to 2% for their own revenues. I have yet to make a purchase anywhere in the state in my entire life and not been charged the full 8.25%. Texas also exempts grocery store food purchases from sales tax, barring a few specific luxury categories, so that's something to keep in mind as well if you have a large family.…

>Texas also exempts grocery store food purchases from sales tax, barring a few specific luxury categories

California does this too. That said, food prices are higher in California because the local cost of living is factored into all prices.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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For maybe 99% of Californians the decision to move or stay is tied to two factors: increasing cost of living and decreasing quality of life. I lived in the Bay Area from 2010 to 2020 and both factors worsened considerably in that time. While Musk’s move may be an indicator of a kind it reflects on largely different factors than those weighed by most people. Most people don’t strain against state bureaucracies to deve…

This is SF small business regulation in a nutshell: a business person who wanted to start an ice cream shop in the Mission neighborhood has spent $100k+ and 16 months dealing with regulatory headaches. https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/heatherknight/article/Bi... Analogous examples can be found for remodeling/construction, etc.

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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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I grew up in Tyler but have lived in Austin for 15 years. I don't mean to be argumentative but you seem to be comparing Small town Texas with "Big City" California. I've vacationed in smaller towns in California and the conservative nature of those areas remind me a lot of Tyler,Texas.

Your onto something, and I think another crucial detail is that the small, southern town I grew up in is more tolerant of gay folks now than the vast majority of big cities were 20 years ago. There's been such a massive shift in tolerance towards gay humans across the entire culture that comparing any place I go to NOW vs where I grew up WHEN I was a kid is a massive difference. Compared to 2020 Anywhere, 2000 Anywhe…

> 2000 Anywhere was a very bigoted place.

This really is not true, in many big cities it was another common facet of life that people were by and large apathetic about at that point.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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> CA provides sanctuary status for illegal immigrants, along with driver licenses, free healthcare and other benefits paid for by tax-paying citizens. I see these easily debunked anti-immigration talking points regularly elsewhere on the web in right-wing circles, but I'm surprised to see it on HN. I encourage anyone interested in the reality of immigration(including the common myths like the above) to either read Op…

You didn't debunk anything but only posted some open-border ideology. Feel free to actually respond to the specific policies that are affecting the state of California instead. Here's just 1 example to get you started: Illegal immigrants have free healthcare until the age of 26 in California, however tax-paying law-abiding citizens are fined if they don't have health insurance.

Why are you comparing a state policy with a federal one? Not to mention the mandate has been declawed and hasn't been enforced in at least a year or two.
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