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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Moving out of CA was the best decision I ever made. Now I can drive on the roads without traffic, pay 0 state income tax and live my life peacefully without being surrounded by bums and social justice warriors. Downvote away SJWs!

+1 on that. Plus you can breathe the air and the electricity stays on most of the time.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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At last count I've had 14 friends move out of California in the last 3 years. All of them middle class. The biggest reasons given are cost of living and quality of life and education for their kids.

We will be moving out of CA in the coming months. We are lifelong residents. We are leaving due to cost of living and especially quality of life for our children.

This doesn't make any sense. Why is the quality of life poorer in California compared to Texas when California has: Better schools across all grades, better universities and better weather? Perhaps there are other factors? Do demographics play a role perchance?

From Wikipedia:

1) According to 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, California's population was 59.5% White (36.6% Non-Hispanic White), 14.7% Asian, 13.8% Some Other Race, 5.8% Black or African American, 0.8% Native American and Alaskan Native, 0.4% Pacific Islander and 5.1% from two or more races.

2) According to the 2018 US Census Bureau estimates, the population of Texas was 73.5% White (41.4% Non-Hispanic White and 32.1% Hispanic White), 12.3% Black or African American, 5.0% Asian, 0.5% Native American and Alaskan Native, 0.1% Pacific Islander, 6.0% Some Other Race, and 2.7% from two or more races.

Texas is still predominantly white. I'm wondering if that is the unstated preference here.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

> For example, to this day I do not recommend being openly gay and living near Tyler.

> If someone moved to Texas, they made a choice to accept it and I will not knock people for their individual choices.

Sucks if you're gay and are born near Tyler. In case others will knock you for something that wasn't even a choice to begin with.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Simply moving his official address from CA to TX does not mean he won't have to pay CA income taxes. CA still taxes income from work in CA even if you don't live there, and for part-time residents, CA still taxes all income even if the work happened in Texas. Musk surely has some good accountants to figure all this out, but it's not as clear cut as your first sentence makes it sound.

[Edit] Adding link to reciprocal agreements and filing in multiple states in thread below. His businesses in California would have to move to Texas to realize the benefits.

>State personal income taxes are based on your legal domicile

Not in CA. The determination of your residency status for CA tax purposes is based on much more than just your legal home address. And even if you are classed as a nonresident, you still pay CA taxes on any income earned due to work in CA.

Texas and CA do not have any reciprocal tax agreements.

Source: live in Texas, travel for work a lot all over the country, including many months spent in CA, have had to file many income tax returns and determine residency status with the state of CA for exactly this purpose.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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I don't think he's saying that they should stop complaining. He's saying they don't realize what they have, they are not thankful for anything and they keep dramatizing over everything.

"All they do is complain and bitch". Certainly _implies_ that they shouldn't be, in his opinion.

Well, they shouldn't be. You don't just complain and bitch. You won't solve anything like that. And I'm not talking about Americans here, that applies to everybody.

Tantrums are OK when you're a kid, once you grow up you're expected to do better.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Moving out of CA was the best decision I ever made. Now I can drive on the roads without traffic, pay 0 state income tax and live my life peacefully without being surrounded by bums and social justice warriors. Downvote away SJWs!

>pay 0 state income tax Do you see this as a good thing? How does your state fund itself?

Normally with a higher property tax and a lower budget (former NH resident here).

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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> very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico These are center-right sources by any reasonable standard

The far-left managed to create an "amazing" (and terrifying) perspective. If you're a leftist but not as leftist as them, you're a centrist, maybe even center-right which makes everybody on the right to be automatically far-right.

It's not a purity test. To be more clear, the New York Times is left for the media, but (like our entire government-corporate-media complex) center-right of public opinion.

They beat the drums of war for Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as every other imperialist act of war that the US dreams up, breathlessly reports the opinions of the NSA, CIA, and FBI as fact, and generally shills for the corporate-backed opinions of both political parties.

Poll after poll after poll shows these positions to be out of touch with the average American.

The fact that the NYTimes sides more with rich, hypercorporate big-govt Dems more than rich, hypercorporate big-govt Republicans is all part of the charade of choice between the two sides.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

How long have you been out of Texas? I think we know people aren't coming to Texas to live in Tyler; They are moving to the cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, which are all diverse, and have large gay communities. Even Tyler has changed. (old article, but still) https://www.advocate.com/society/activism/2009/09/29/gays-ta...

That article is horrifying. If you meant to show that ass "texas getting better" then I hate to see how bad it was before this.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

At last count I've had 14 friends move out of California in the last 3 years. All of them middle class. The biggest reasons given are cost of living and quality of life and education for their kids.

I highly doubt any of those factored into Elon Musk's decision.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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> And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here. I like that... Interesting point. It reminded me that in his past he has also left South Africa, and yet South Africa could also be described pretty accurately as "its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here.…

For one thing, Texas has no personal income tax.

Does it have visible inequality?

I've never been there.

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