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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by boringg »

S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

California still has every viewpoint that is imaginable though there does seem to be less space for far right. What's making everyone salty about Elon leaving is there was considerable amount of people who helped him build up in the state (i.e. state benefits, staff who worked incredibly hard for many years, consumers who bought his cars [drive in the bay area]) and he's peacing out, with a slap in the face to everyone seemilng all to avoid paying taxes on his unbelievable gains.

No one is knocking Texas per se.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by cvhashim »

smabie wrote: post #83
tw04 wrote: post #39

Shocking to see someone anti-union trying to flee a state that actually protects workers rights: https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/30/20891314/elon-musk-... While I admire Elon's vision, I'm not a huge fan of how he's going about it. Kind of seems like he views other human beings as tools to be used and discarded when they've outlived their usefulness. You can see it when he makes comments about things like the U…

No, I really do think people in the US are massively entitled. I've lived in 3rd world countries and the standard of living even for a minimum wage worker is so beyond that of a poor person in a third world country (like Tanzania or Kenya, for example). People in the US are lucky , and yet, all everyone does is complain and bitch all the time. I think most Americans lack perspective and are ungrateful for what they h…

So we should be thankful to the 1 percent of the 1 percent for sharing bread crumbs from the proverbial money pie in this society? Genuinely dislike this sort of mindset. I’m a Kenyan who grew up and lives in the US as my parents immigrated here almost 25 years ago. Normal people work just as hard as Mr Musk if not harder — my immigrants parents worked near to death to provide for me and taught me the value of education and hard work. Normal people aren’t asking for handouts. Kenya has its good and bad but the US is an incredibly wealthy country. We can do a lot better.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by galkk »

Yetanfou wrote: post #144
ffggvv wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why would i buy a car from a company founded by nazis?

Konrad Zuse was one of the pioneers of computing. He was a German who worked under the Nazis. IBM did a lot of profitable business with the Nazis. You used a device based in part on work done by and for Nazis to post that message, if you posted it from the USA you'll have posted it "from stolen land" according to the more "progressive" elements in society. The clothes you're wearing are probably partly or wholly made…

Don't forget Werner von Braun

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by skrtskrt »

busterarm wrote: post #62
apcragg wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Failing budget? I get that it's super popular right-wing talking point but it just hasn't been true for years. Prior to COVID (which has decimated state budgets Red and Blue) California had a huge surplus and massive rainy-day fund.

California has a $54B deficit this year. It's been all over the news, including very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico. The state _projected_ a surplus and was off by an entire order of magnitude into the red. The state has been campaigning to Congress all year for about $14B in bailout money.

> very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico

These are center-right sources by any reasonable standard

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by admiralspoo »

baron_harkonnen wrote: post #154
busterarm wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

California has a $54B deficit this year. It's been all over the news, including very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico. The state _projected_ a surplus and was off by an entire order of magnitude into the red. The state has been campaigning to Congress all year for about $14B in bailout money.

> very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico. Not disagreeing with your overall claim that CA does in fact have budget problems, but citing the NYT and Politico as "very left-wing" is a pretty hilarious example of just how far right "center" American thinking has gone. NYT is a classic example of a centrist/liberal publication that is widely reviled by anyone on the left. edit: If you think "liberals" are the…

>90% of the NYT's readers are Democrats: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/01/americans-m...

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by st1x7 »

I guess he just doesn't want to pay state income tax. Tim Ferriss moved from California to Texas before Uber went public. Joe Rogan moved from California to Texas before he started working with Spotify. Any other relatively well known people that have done the same?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by majormajor »

S_A_P wrote: post #158

Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…

Meanwhile, I'm holding my breath that enough richer-than-most folks will move to make house prices go down a bit instead of up 10% since last year like https://ktla.com/news/local-news/socal-homes-prices-again-se...

Seems like they're still moving in instead of moving out, for now, though.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by 013a »

goshx wrote: post #12
bryanlarsen wrote: post #4

Criticizes California for excessive regulation, then moves to a state where it's illegal for Tesla to sell its cars. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_US_dealership_disputes#T...

"These laws make it illegal to buy a car from Tesla in person, at a Tesla Gallery. Thus, all Texas orders are taken via the internet or over the phone. Texas residents can still easily buy a car from Tesla, but the purchase is handled as an out-of-state transaction and must be completed before the vehicle ships to Texas." Tesla is not your regular dealership. Car purchases are made online anyways.

Yeah its weird that Texas is "different" in this regard? The process is the same even in other states; I've never seen a Tesla store with a stock of cars just there on-site ready to buy that day, you always order online (or, I suppose, the salesperson orders online for you, and maybe that's illegal in Texas? I dont know).

And, frankly, this is how most new car purchases work. Every one I've purchased or been a part of; they don't end with you driving off the lot in a new car, they end with you waiting a week or two for the car to be delivered. I imagine some dealers have a limited stock of new cars in common configurations, and you could drive off in one of those, but that's the minority of purchases in my experience.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Post by gok »

menssen wrote: post #94
jowday wrote: post #14

Isn't the actual listed location of residence more a formality for a billionaire like Musk? I presume he'll still rent residences in LA and the Bay Area considering he'll be back and forth for business related to Tesla and SpaceX. This seems like he's renting a place in Texas and making a big deal out of 'moving there' to make a point about California's regulatory environment.

Finance YouTuber Graham Stephen recently made a big deal out of moving from Los Angeles to Vegas because the tax savings more-or-less paid for a giant mansion in Vegas. (And because of some slightly cringey comments about not wanting to see so many homeless people, but that's not the editorial comment I'm trying to make right now.) But, he's keeping his house in CA (for "weekends and vacations"), and he's building hi…

The California Franchise Tax Board actually spends a lot resources catching people who spend too much time in state and don't claim to live there. It's actually surprisingly hard for would-be tax dodgers to pull off, and the penalties are severe.
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