Moving out of CA was the best decision I ever made. Now I can drive on the roads without traffic, pay 0 state income tax and live my life peacefully without being surrounded by bums and social justice warriors. Downvote away SJWs!
Elon Musk moves to Texas
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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#182Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…
> And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here. I like that...
Interesting point.
It reminded me that in his past he has also left South Africa, and yet South Africa could also be described pretty accurately as "its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here."
Now I'm fairly certain based on his interviews that the reason he "left South Africa" was more to do with him wanting to move to the US since it increased the odds of success of his entrepreneurial dreams.
So I suspect his move to Texas might be along similar lines?
> I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out.
Interesting question you raise there.
If that were indeed true, what would you guess might be the cause?
I'd guess it might have to do with freedom of some kind.
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#183Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…
At last count I've had 14 friends move out of California in the last 3 years. All of them middle class. The biggest reasons given are cost of living and quality of life and education for their kids.
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#184What percentage of Tesla employees will prefer living in Texas over California?
Yeah, Musk might be able get away with this, since I expect many key employees will be attracted by much lower housing costs out of state. Texas has high real estate taxes, but not high enough to offset savings on house prices.
You just can’t move a whole company, lots of people have roots, family, kids have friends, school, etc I doubt more than 10% of people would just relocate on a dime. Studies show overall Americans are not willing to move where jobs are once they’ve settled.
Much is made of a tiny percentage of people leaving. The vast majority won’t and will be forced to see another job if he were to close the CA offices which will be massively disruptive.
I’m betting he won’t, that the CA offices won’t move, and the people who are writing the code that lands his rockets will remain.
It’s too much of a risk to replace those people and break up teams.
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#185I was on the edge of the same decision. This move by the new district attorney in LA is so far beyond the pale that if it's not rescinded soon, I am gone too: "NEW: L.A. County DA George Gascon has issued a directive to prosecutors that the following misdemeanors will be declined for prosecution, with exemptions. -Trespassing -Disturbing the peace -Driving without license -Prostitution -Resisting arrest" This is an a…
Add to that the "do as I say, no as I do" attitude from the state government which seems to revel in the opportunity offered by the SARS2 epidemic to exercise power over their constituents upon which those constituents go from demonstrating against capricious rules [1] to sheriffs blankly refusing to enforce those rules [2] and the question really becomes why those people who can move out of California don't move out of California.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MllTDoW9cMI - Bar owner in Los Angeles CA is livid to see that mayor Garcetti has approved an outdoor dining area
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvvRme0h2oY - Message from Sheriff Bianco 12-04-20
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#186Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…
It's a tax dodge.
You probably get far more for your money though. (Property/land-wise)
I also remember reading stories years ago about CA/SV businesses that had offices up in Colorado as a back-up for when 'The Big One' hits.
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#187Moving out of CA was the best decision I ever made. Now I can drive on the roads without traffic, pay 0 state income tax and live my life peacefully without being surrounded by bums and social justice warriors. Downvote away SJWs!
>pay 0 state income tax
Do you see this as a good thing? How does your state fund itself?
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#188Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…
> And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here. I like that... Interesting point. It reminded me that in his past he has also left South Africa, and yet South Africa could also be described pretty accurately as "its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexist here.…
I've met quite a few people who moved out of South Africa to the US and UK, and the reason I was always given was something to do with the common advice being to not stop your car at night or at remote intersections lest you get carjacked or worse.
Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas
#189Pretty interesting to see this move makes people so salty. There does seem to be a trend of people fleeing California, I dont know enough about the situation out there to comment on whether or not its valid. I suspect something must be going on for several high profile folks moving out. And before you bash Texas, its not perfect. But its pretty diverse, and it seems that folks with opposing viewpoints can still coexi…
California still has every viewpoint that is imaginable though there does seem to be less space for far right. What's making everyone salty about Elon leaving is there was considerable amount of people who helped him build up in the state (i.e. state benefits, staff who worked incredibly hard for many years, consumers who bought his cars [drive in the bay area]) and he's peacing out, with a slap in the face to everyo…
Is this a successful way to dodge taxes? If so, that loophole should be fixed. I left California 4 years ago and yet somehow still pay taxes to the state.
If you're saying that anyone who was professionally successful in California has no right to ever leave the state, that seems like a tough sell.
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#190Once Volkswagen gets its Modulare Elektroauto Baukasten rolling at full production speed it's game over for Tesla anyhow.
why would i buy a car from a company founded by nazis?
I know right? And you can forget about me buying a car from the country that bombed Pearl Harbor! I'm the sort of guy who holds multigenerational grudges you see. Who cares if all the men involved with that unpleasantness are long out of the picture? When I see a dope smoking hippie driving a Volkswagen Beetle I think to myself 'that car was designed by Hitler, that hippie must surely be a Nazi sympathizer!'