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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Bayart »

enlyth wrote: post #21
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

For starters all the Xbox, PS5, Ryzen and RX chips come from the exact same production line. And the Samsung N8 yield doesn't seem to be anything special regarding Nvidia. Add that repeated waves of Covid lock-downs have made demand explode and that we're in the busiest period of the year anyway...

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by whbrown »

zaxcellent wrote: post #196
whbrown wrote: post #145

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Yes. I have the X13 which is quite similar to the T14s (just smaller) with the same processor/ram and I'm quite happy. Best keyboard I've had on a laptop. Does suspend to ram/suspend to disk/hibernate work you for you though? Using Manjaro on 5.9 kernel and X, and most things work out of the box well enough for my purposes except for suspend/hibernate and I can't find any info online for how to fix it completely. Add…

Totally agree about the keyboard and processor/ram. Originally thought about getting the X13, but I recall the screens options weren't that good, and I prefer the larger size and bigger battery anyways. As for Linux, I fully intended to dual boot Arch and Windows. Due to circumstance, I am stuck with a tiny 128GB NVMe and so I am using the default Windows for now. I've been watching this playlist of a user installing…

Yeah, for what it's worth--I also am dual booting Windows (solely for games, wine isn't worth the trouble) and I've had absolutely no problems with it. In fact, it's buttery smooth with every game I've tried it on (CK3, Noita, Synthetik, Kenshi, Factorio, etc.).

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by DCKing »

TomVDB wrote: post #174
DCKing wrote: post #166

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Not saying that's not impressive, but you had me thinking for a second that Nvidia was already going past AMD's previous top end card. But that's actually the 5700XT, which is 4.5x as popular as the RX5700 non-XT. The RX5700 is not as widely available in the first place if my understanding is correct. But yeah Nvidia in general has got the market for gamers pretty much cornered. People will go for Nvidia all the time…

Don’t you find it mind blowing that after such a short time on the market, it already has 1/5th of the share of a 5700 XT? Of course it won’t come close yet to the 2000 series. But what it shows without a doubt is that there was plenty of supply and that gamers bought it. There is no reason to think at this time that supply was lower than any other launch before it. But demand was way higher.

It's a bit higher than I was expecting for sure, but I'm not exactly mind blown by it. AMD is famously unable to sell their high end cards to the Steam audience (at least in recent years) so the ability for a new and hyped Nvidia card to sell well in a month's time (especially these months' time), is very much not surprising.

The only surprise for me here is that the stock of Geforce cards they got out is slightly higher than complainers on internet forums makes it seem. If they truly already had enough stock to cover 1/5th the demand of the RTX 2080 then their stock situation is not great but not all that bad (these numbers are not that, but an indication).

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by robotnikman »

fmajid wrote: post #111
fortran77 wrote: post #53

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Exactly. Intel is hardly being left "in the dust."

In the enthusiast segment where people build their own machines, perhaps. AMD is yet to get traction in the mass volume corporate desktop/laptop markets, although they have also taken significant market share in the lucrative server market.

I've noticed HP has been offering laptops now with AMD processors instead of Intel.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wmf »

SomeoneFromCA wrote: post #183
wmf wrote: post #164

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5800X is faster than 10700K and 3700X is better value than 10700K. It's pointless to buy Intel.

I do not need external GPU. I want integrated. So intels are better value to me, keeping in mind that intel MOBOs are alsos cheaper.

A 4750G or 5750G would be good for you but unfortunately you won't be able to buy them.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by noir_lord »

jjoonathan wrote: post #162
recursive wrote: post #158

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Scalpers don't keep them. They redistribute them to normal customers.

...at elevated prices. "How much blood did the leech suck?" is a valid question. Dollars would be better units than number of video cards, but the number of video cards passing through the leeches correlates and is still meaningful.

Same with the Series X, I want one of the boy for Xmas, co-worker of my missus managed to get 5 of them, he wanted 650 for a console he paid 450 for.

I told her to tell him where to shove it.

It's not that I can't afford it, it's that scalpers can go fuck themselves, the boy will be more than happy with Quest 2 and my current gaming PC in the new year when I can build another.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by SomeoneFromCA »

wmf wrote: post #205
SomeoneFromCA wrote: post #183

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I do not need external GPU. I want integrated. So intels are better value to me, keeping in mind that intel MOBOs are alsos cheaper.

A 4750G or 5750G would be good for you but unfortunately you won't be able to buy them.

Precisely my point.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by ChuckNorris89 »

fmajid wrote: post #116
katsura wrote: post #39

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I noticed that as well. Either the build quality is questionable, some hardware elements, or the screen itself. Somehow it seems like there isn't any real AMD option that a self-respecting dev could buy. By the time AMD laptops catch up, M1 will leave everybody in the dust.

The Huawei Mate 14 2020 AMD is an outstanding machine, with a 3:2 display that has the same vertical space as a 16" 16:9, and a 4800H, and a solid all-metal chassis (only 16GB RAM, though). It's available in the UK, unfortunately with their god-awful UK QWERTY layout. The big problem is 4800H availability. I gave up waiting for the Tuxedo Pulse 14 with it, and got a M1 Macbook Air instead.

>god-awful UK QWERTY layout

Mate, zou havenät seen the German lazout.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by BearOso »

dathinab wrote: post #126
pmarreck wrote: post #78

AMD and ARM are both eating Intel's lunch lately

It's a bit of nit-picking but I would say AMD and Apple. The M1 is a Apple chip not and ARM chip. Sure it uses ARM IPs including the ARM instruction set. But it doesn't really use the ARM provided IP-cores as far as I know. So the M1 is ARM in the sense that AMD chips are x86 ;=) This seems to be a pointless differentiation but the M1 chips are inherently different from other ARM ISA using chips using ARM IP-cores. P…

I believe they still license the ARM designs and just make changes on top of them. The GPUs are also very much PowerVR-based, even though they aren’t branded that way any more.

The special hardware for emulation was also mostly debunked. Turns out it’s just a really optimized software emulation layer.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by merb »

Thaxll wrote: post #18
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

I gave up getting a 5900x and went with a 5800x because I was tired waiting for it.

actually in germany you can't get your hands on ANY 5000X series chips. there is basically zero stock.
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