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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by war1025 »

leetcrew wrote: post #47
war1025 wrote: post #36

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> so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor Maybe my eyes just aren't that good, but I really can't see why I would need 4k over standard HD, which gives me plenty of screen real estate and a perfectly fine picture.

how big is your monitor? to me, 4K is noticeably better than 1440p on a 27" monitor, especially for rendering text. 1440p is certainly acceptable at that size, but my guess is it would look quite bad on anything >30".

I have a 24" monitor. Could be that people just have larger monitors than me.

I always get the impression that people are just coding off their laptops all the time. 4k on a laptop seems like overkill.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by mdoms »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

This is "no one drives in New York, there's too much traffic" levels of logic.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by gwd »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

> What sales, they hardly had any stock available.

Out of curiosity, are you trying to buy a chip, or a system?

If the latter, is it possible that it's a problem with PC makers not assembling enough AMD systems, rather than AMD not making enough chips?

I'm asking because for a long time Intel would have deals where they'd give PC manufacturers a hefty discount if AMD were less than 10% of their sales; such that the only way for AMD to make it worthwhile for HP / Dell / whoever to make more than 10% AMD systems would be to pay them to put their chips in machines (negative costs). They were taken to court over it and punished, but that doesn't mean they aren't doing it again.

Particularly as apparently they're still saying what they did wasn't wrong in the first place:

https://www.pcgamer.com/intel-is-still-fighting-a-10-year-ol...

EDIT: What's with the downvotes? Intel did a pretty despicable thing to AMD; it's documented in a court case. And they're still fighting to say that what they did was fine. I think people deserve to know about that kind of behavior, and I don't think it's unreasonable to ask if it's still going on.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by [deleted] »

cowmoo728 wrote: post #55
wfleming wrote: post #42

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Lenovo is selling several of the new T series Thinkpads with Ryzen chips. IHMO something like the T14s is pretty comparable to an XPS, but I don't know what your evaluation criteria are, and I have a personal preference for Thinkpads, so I'm biased.

The lenovo x13, which comes in intel or amd variants, is closer to the XPS13. I have the prior generation x395 running pop_os and it's fantastic.

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by whbrown »

zaxcellent wrote: post #93
wfleming wrote: post #42

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Lenovo is selling several of the new T series Thinkpads with Ryzen chips. IHMO something like the T14s is pretty comparable to an XPS, but I don't know what your evaluation criteria are, and I have a personal preference for Thinkpads, so I'm biased.

I just got my T14s that I customized with 32GB, Ryzen 4750u (8c/16t), and the 400nit display (sadly lost the display lottery, but I didn't notice until I checked the part#). However, it took 60+ days to ship as I ordered it Sep 1st. I suppose the shortage of the Ryzen chips mean long delays for Lenovo laptops which are customized as opposed to the preconfigured variants. All of the preconfigured ones had the 250nit s…

Yes. I have the X13 which is quite similar to the T14s (just smaller) with the same processor/ram and I'm quite happy. Best keyboard I've had on a laptop. Does suspend to ram/suspend to disk/hibernate work you for you though? Using Manjaro on 5.9 kernel and X, and most things work out of the box well enough for my purposes except for suspend/hibernate and I can't find any info online for how to fix it completely.

Added "idle=nomwait amd_iommu=off resume=" kernel params and this seems to sometimes work but usually not...

And what is your battery life? I get ~5 hrs (up to 6.5hrs with most processes disabled except firefox), with around 6-8 watts discharge rate (using powertop --auto-tune).

Typical trials and tribulations of new hardware with linux. I was thinking of trying out Fedora/Ubuntu/Pop_OS to see how they are.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by fatboy93 »

Ingon wrote: post #6
eloff wrote: post #4

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The Ryzen 5900x bests the 10900K on price, power usage, single-threaded performance and multi-threaded performance. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-5900x-vs-i...

My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I'm planning to build my workstation and I'm settled on 5950x, but the fact that I need to get a gfx card separately is irritating, given that I'm in India and it adds a ton of money that I could be spending elsewhere!

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by 013a »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

> What sales, they hardly had any stock available.

No one goes to Disney World anymore; its too crowded. And, no one buys AMD CPUs anymore, they're always sold out!

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by fatboy93 »

snazz wrote: post #9
Ingon wrote: post #6

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My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

Mos of the workload for my domain involved just a ton of Ram and CPU compute only.

Ofcourse there are related subdomains where I need the graphics, but we are talking about 1 in 1000 use case.

I just need the gfx card to drive the display only.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by nivethan »

usrusr wrote: post #129
fmajid wrote: post #105

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A faster compiling machine is the difference between sustaining a state of flow critical to developer productivity, or not. Paying even $5000 for a desktop that yields probably a 2x improvement in productivity for someone paid at least $10K a month is a total no-brainer.

Compile time impact is a very non-linear thing. There's a narrow band that could be called the distraction threshold. An investment in faster hardware will give very small returns if you are already below that range and only moderate returns when so far above that the investments only gets you a little closer. But when the speedup crosses that narrow band or at least significant parts of it, it's a night and day diff…

Is there an average number for the distraction threshold or is each person pretty different?

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by [deleted] »

qz2 wrote: post #77
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Yeah was going to buy a 5900X and an NVidia 3070. Can't get either so spent the cash I had lying around on an M1 Mac Mini to play with. Edit: I’m still going to buy the first two items at some point. But not yet.

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