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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Yeah, I've been trying to buy components for a build for the past two weeks. No 5600x (or even 3600). No nvidia cards at decent prices. I'm guessing the etherium 2 launch just drained the whole supply chain.

Eth2 is a Proof-of-Stake system and doesn't rely on the computationally heavy Proof-of-Work, so it's unlikely that Eth2 is a major contributor to a lack of supply.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Scalpers aren't helping. I'd be super curious how many they've gotten vs normal customers.

Scalpers don't keep them. They redistribute them to normal customers.

...at elevated prices. "How much blood did the leech suck?" is a valid question. Dollars would be better units than number of video cards, but the number of video cards passing through the leeches correlates and is still meaningful.

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My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

An interesting feature if you want to just play Windows games once in a while is "PCI passthrough" aka VFIO. With that you can assign a PCI device to be used directly by Windows emulated within a VM, which lets you play game in Windows in emulation with almost no performance penalty.

But then you need another graphics card for your main Linux system.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

I was very tempted to get the new XPS 13 but the Intel CPU + the reported QA issues made me reconsider.

The problem is yes, there's no AMD equivalent it seems. Maybe T14s but it's not available in my country right now.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

Check out the November Steam results. The RTX 3080 is already at 0.23%. After just 1 month. If you don’t think that’s impressive, compare it against some AMD GPUs like the 5700 or the 5600 XT, which has the same share. There’s a reason Nvidia’s quarterly gaming results where a blowout. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Not saying that's not impressive, but you had me thinking for a second that Nvidia was already going past AMD's previous top end card. But that's actually the 5700XT, which is 4.5x as popular as the RX5700 non-XT. The RX5700 is not as widely available in the first place if my understanding is correct.

But yeah Nvidia in general has got the market for gamers pretty much cornered. People will go for Nvidia all the time if the price is the same ballpark. But it still has ways to go before it comes even close to its predecessors in the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2080 Super, both of which are about as popular as the RX5700XT.

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It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

They're all bottle-necked by availability at TSMC.

What's bottlenecking TSMC? The availability of more ASML equipment? The production of silicon? Literal floor space in the foundries? The ability to get stuff in or out of Taiwan?

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Yeah, I've been trying to buy components for a build for the past two weeks. No 5600x (or even 3600). No nvidia cards at decent prices. I'm guessing the etherium 2 launch just drained the whole supply chain.

I’ve managed to get my hands on a 5800x but I think it’s simply because it’s by far the worst value proposition in the new lineup and demand is probably not as high.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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I assume Intel’s prioritizing their high-volume customers over retail channels.

What’s this have to do with intel?

Ok, I misread the parent comment.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Yeah this has been a huge problem for me too. I'm about to just go Intel instead. I hope they ramp up production and don't miss out because I think a strong AMD would be a good thing. I can't wait forever to build my new rig though and I've been using Intel for decades so I have confidence in it. Excited to go AMD but I am building a new rig for a reason (my old one is in its death throes and I use this thing all day…

If you don't need the best single core performance, the cheaper Ryzen 3000 chips are still available.

And unlike intel they've been using the same sockets for the last 3 generations, so upgrading the CPU in future is actually a reasonable idea.
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