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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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drewg123 wrote: post #50
enlyth wrote: post #21

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It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

What ever happened to the laws of supply and demand? If the demand is high, and the supply is limited, they should be raising their prices. Stockx says an xbox series X is worth $750, a PS5 is worth $950, and a Ryzen 5900X worth $800. Why can't vendors just raise their prices, so I can buy from a retail outlet I trust, rather than a scalper.

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #127
cillian64 wrote: post #115

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The fact that these products are out of stock everywhere implies more sales than if they were sitting on shelves.

Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

But it does have high sales. It was hyped to the moon.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wlesieutre »

fastest963 wrote: post #71
wlesieutre wrote: post #58

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What's the benefit of Thunderbolt displays? I think it's far more common to just do DisplayPort on USB-C alternate mode, or for slightly more specialized screens, the USB-C ones with power delivery. Thunderbolt screens are really unusual in my experience. It's an understandable restriction if you already bought a Thunderbolt screen and need a new computer that's compatible with it, but requiring Thunderbolt case I mi…

I have a dock with two 4k 60hz DisplayPort monitors that runs off TB3. Afaik that's not possible over USB.

If you just want the displays, you can get that over vanilla USB-C:

https://www.cablematters.com/pc-1220-126-usb-c-triple-4k-dis...

If you want displays and all your other dock stuff combined under a single cable, that's where you're better off with Thunderbolt, yes. The USB-C docks can do some of this (I think with DisplayLink) but not quite as well.

A Thunderbolt dock doesn't limit your display choices like the comment I replied to was talking about though, you'd just use any normal DisplayPort screen. Worst case without it you're plugging in separate display cables in addition to a non-video USB hub.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by arvinsim »

freedomben wrote: post #11
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Yeah this has been a huge problem for me too. I'm about to just go Intel instead. I hope they ramp up production and don't miss out because I think a strong AMD would be a good thing. I can't wait forever to build my new rig though and I've been using Intel for decades so I have confidence in it. Excited to go AMD but I am building a new rig for a reason (my old one is in its death throes and I use this thing all day…

If you don't need the best single core performance, the cheaper Ryzen 3000 chips are still available.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by eloff »

toopok4k3 wrote: post #99
eloff wrote: post #24

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My old desktop is still a beast with a 10 core Xeon and 128GB of ram. I'm investing in a new rig to speed up my rust compiles. The current machine is 4 years old now, so I can afford to wait a few months for a build that will last me that long.

Do you actually get real RoI on that thing? Must have cost magnitudes more than normal desktop hardware. Or is this where you just accept that it's worth it purely for tingling the geek inside you?

My dad got me a really good deal ($600!) on the RAM on ebay, otherwise I think 64gb would have been plenty. The nice thing about it is the Linux buffer cache keeps everything in memory, the SSD is just for durability.

Over 4 years of heavy software development I think the system has paid for itself in time saved.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #132
buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #127

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Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

But it does have high sales. It was hyped to the moon.

Hype != sales. And I'd be interested to see what sales numbers you're referring to. Every single source I can find says retailers are receiving very low supply, and obviously selling out of that very low supply. But selling out of low supply does not equate to high sales numbers.

But if you have a source that says otherwise I would love to see it.

P.S. I'm sure it would have great sales numbers if they could make enough of them. I'm not suggesting the demand isn't there.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by TomVDB »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #127
cillian64 wrote: post #115

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The fact that these products are out of stock everywhere implies more sales than if they were sitting on shelves.

Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

Check out the November Steam results.

The RTX 3080 is already at 0.23%. After just 1 month.

If you don’t think that’s impressive, compare it against some AMD GPUs like the 5700 or the 5600 XT, which has the same share.

There’s a reason Nvidia’s quarterly gaming results where a blowout.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by api »

dathinab wrote: post #120
api wrote: post #54

If they can really crack the PC laptop market, Intel is really in trouble. They lost phones, are losing Mac, are slowly losing cloud/data center/HPC, and if they lose PC that's about it.

Especially given that TSMC seems on a good track to go to 3nm nodes. Which supposedly will have something like 2.5x the transistor density then Intels current production mechanism. Even without much other improvements from AMD this can hurt quite a bit. The only think currently beneficial for Intel is that they don't relay on TSMC and in turn are not affected by shortages of nearly everyone else competing for TSMC pr…

Intel had a footing in the very early phone market via StrongARM but they sold that off for some bizarre reason. They also got a little bit of a footing with Atom in the Android market, which is why Android/x86 was a thing, but they didn't seem to take that seriously either.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by sandGorgon »

There's something wrong in this story. The IdeaPad Slim 7 4800u, a laptop that has been called "too good to be true" has been put of stock due to 4800u supply issues for months.

It's super hard to find any laptops with high end (comparable to i7/i9) processors.

I'm totally unsure where is the stock coming and going.

Tinfoil hat tells me that Intel is buying up all the supply!

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by TomVDB »

alibert wrote: post #86
Drew_ wrote: post #57

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Would Nvidia's shortages also fall in this bucket?

We know more about Nvidia shortage on 3000 series: Samsung wafer, substrates and components (maybe the GDDR6X memory chip which only Micron can make). [1] https://www.techpowerup.com/275530/nvidia-rtx-30-series-shor...

All rumors about low supply 3000 series are debunked by looking at their quarterly revenue results and the Steam ranking that was released yesterday. (See my other reply.)
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