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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

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There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

I've replaced my aging and failing 2013 XPS with a Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540, cheap and slightly bigger but has a second internal M.2 slot, SD card slot, RAM upgraded to 32GB, and full size HDMI and USB A connectors for less than 900€. I'm happy with the upgrade, even if this machine won't last as long as the XPS (though its full metal case is sturdy enough).

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

It's mostly that there isn't a cheap discrete GPU worth buying. So if you're doing a software development rig, where yes those 12 or 16 cores will be put to good use, you're stuck with spending $100+ on a new GPU that'll spend its entire life idling or scrounging the used markets. The low-end discretes are crap rebranded from 5+ years ago. Which means outdated display connections and bad hardware video decoders.

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Yeah this has been a huge problem for me too. I'm about to just go Intel instead. I hope they ramp up production and don't miss out because I think a strong AMD would be a good thing. I can't wait forever to build my new rig though and I've been using Intel for decades so I have confidence in it. Excited to go AMD but I am building a new rig for a reason (my old one is in its death throes and I use this thing all day…

My old desktop is still a beast with a 10 core Xeon and 128GB of ram. I'm investing in a new rig to speed up my rust compiles. The current machine is 4 years old now, so I can afford to wait a few months for a build that will last me that long.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #21
post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

They're all bottle-necked by availability at TSMC.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #21
post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

Probably limited capacity of state-of-the-art foundries.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

It's mostly that there isn't a cheap discrete GPU worth buying. So if you're doing a software development rig, where yes those 12 or 16 cores will be put to good use, you're stuck with spending $100+ on a new GPU that'll spend its entire life idling or scrounging the used markets. The low-end discretes are crap rebranded from 5+ years ago. Which means outdated display connections and bad hardware video decoders.

Nobody cares. That's really it. There is too few people that would want it, therefore its fiscally irresponsible to offer it.

Is $100 really that much? Get a second hand gpu from 5 years ago for less. Those don't have issue with video though you might have to look for right connectors.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #22
post #14

There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

I've replaced my aging and failing 2013 XPS with a Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540, cheap and slightly bigger but has a second internal M.2 slot, SD card slot, RAM upgraded to 32GB, and full size HDMI and USB A connectors for less than 900€. I'm happy with the upgrade, even if this machine won't last as long as the XPS (though its full metal case is sturdy enough).

>Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540

Too bad that, like most Ryzen laptops, it only has a HDMI 1.4 port just like every Lidl/Aldi discount bin laptop from 2012, so you can't get 60Hz at 4K on your external monitor, which is laughable for a device that costs almost a thousand bucks. HDMI 2.0 devices have been on the market since like 2016 already.

I don't know why all OEMs gimp the Ryzen variants like this. It's either they have slower USB/HDMI, or worse screens, or outdated wireless or less RAM/storage than the Intel version of the same device.

One theory I heard, is Intel requires OEMs to sell a certain percentage of their chips on premium machines if they want to stay on their nice partners list and get their chips at good prices, so OEMs, in order to stay in Intel's good graces, just gimp the Ryzen ones to force your hand to buy Intel if you want no compromises, other than an outdated CPU.

My aging laptop is in dire need of replacement and I would also want to replace it with a Ryzen one but the very few ones that have no major compromises have been sold out for months and show no signs of being restocked(in the EU at least) whereas Intel's outdated 9th and 10th gen based laptops are in stock everywhere but I wouldn't touch tose with a 10ft(3,048m) pole.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

90% of low tech corporate business users with bloated spreadsheets and resource hogging antivirus. Anyone doing virtualization/containers.

Those people are not buying top of the line components though.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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post #21
post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

It's quite frustrating that this is becoming the norm, whether it be the 3XXX Nvidia cards, Playstation 5s, Ryzen CPUs, why is it that no hardware company can keep up with demand these days?

Scalpers aren't helping. I'd be super curious how many they've gotten vs normal customers.
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