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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by freedomben »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

Yeah this has been a huge problem for me too. I'm about to just go Intel instead. I hope they ramp up production and don't miss out because I think a strong AMD would be a good thing. I can't wait forever to build my new rig though and I've been using Intel for decades so I have confidence in it. Excited to go AMD but I am building a new rig for a reason (my old one is in its death throes and I use this thing all day almost every day for work).

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by ben-schaaf »

kllrnohj wrote: post #8
eddieoz wrote: post #2

What is better? Ryzen 5000 or Core i7-10700K?

The Ryzen 5000 is basically across the board superior to the nearest Intel competitor. That is, 5600X > 10600k, 5700X > 10700k, etc... This is, however, assuming MSRP pricing for both. If the Ryzen is being marked up due to shortage while the Intel is being discounted a significant enough price gap could warrant still going with Intel.

Even better the 5600x is only very slightly behind the 10700k in multi-core workloads while being ahead on performance and power consumption (and price).

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by kllrnohj »

snazz wrote: post #9
Ingon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

It's mostly that there isn't a cheap discrete GPU worth buying. So if you're doing a software development rig, where yes those 12 or 16 cores will be put to good use, you're stuck with spending $100+ on a new GPU that'll spend its entire life idling or scrounging the used markets. The low-end discretes are crap rebranded from 5+ years ago. Which means outdated display connections and bad hardware video decoders.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by klodolph »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

I assume Intel’s prioritizing their high-volume customers over retail channels.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by dhruvdh »

Ingon wrote: post #6
eloff wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Ryzen 5900x bests the 10900K on price, power usage, single-threaded performance and multi-threaded performance. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-5900x-vs-i...

My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

While I agree with your sentiment adding a simple Vega 8 to their CPUs is a lot more work and expense than you'd think.

They have a thing going where they manufacture Zen core chiplets, and that put together X number of chiplets to make a processor. This is very attractive in terms of cost.

As best I know they don't have a GPU chiplet, and so they can't just add one to a CPU. All their processors containing both CPU and GPU are designed like the M1 - one big chip with both.

Hopefully this will change soon, and we'll have Navi 2/3 chiplets going around.

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Post by fastest963 »

katsura wrote: post #14

There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

Unfortunately, even if there was, they wouldn't have Thunderbolt so it would limit the external display options. Hopefully when USB4 starts rolling out it'll be a different story.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Thaxll »

eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

I gave up getting a 5900x and went with a 5800x because I was tired waiting for it.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by piyh »

snazz wrote: post #9
Ingon wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest gripe with amd is that I need to think about gfx card when buying one. I’d love to have a simple vega 8 in all of their cpus.

I have a hard time believing that most purchasers of high-end consumer CPUs wouldn't use a discrete GPU. What's the use-case you're envisioning where an integrated GPU is a good use of die space?

90% of low tech corporate business users with bloated spreadsheets and resource hogging antivirus. Anyone doing virtualization/containers.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by MichaelApproved »

klodolph wrote: post #15
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

I assume Intel’s prioritizing their high-volume customers over retail channels.

What’s this have to do with intel?
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