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AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by Shorel »

pdpi wrote: post #104
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #95

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Good problem to have from the perspective of AMD shareholders.

Both Sony and Microsoft were on a PowerPC base for the PS3/Xbox360 generation. Sony was on a MIPS before that. While there's definitely value in knowing you basically own the console market for the next few years, consoles have a much easier time jumping ship on architectures than PCs do, so having such a large portion of your revenue tied to two customers, both of whom are capable of jumping ship quite easily on the…

Yeah, whatever. The future of consoles is not really relevant right now.

The past generation of consoles, the PS4 and Xbox something, is what gave AMD the cashflow to create their current Ryzen and Navi technologies.

The current generation of consoles is the same. AMD has guaranteed earnings that can be invested in new R&D.

Will the consoles in five years use something different? It really doesn't matter. Cashflow is cashflow.

What matters is the impressive advancement that Apple has with their M1 ARM processor. This is current technology, being sold right now.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by xxpor »

wazoox wrote: post #22
katsura wrote: post #14

There are still no XPS level laptops available with Ryzen CPUs, which makes me so sad. I'd like to upgrade my work machine but I'd prefer not to buy Intel at this time.

I've replaced my aging and failing 2013 XPS with a Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540, cheap and slightly bigger but has a second internal M.2 slot, SD card slot, RAM upgraded to 32GB, and full size HDMI and USB A connectors for less than 900€. I'm happy with the upgrade, even if this machine won't last as long as the XPS (though its full metal case is sturdy enough).

Am I the only one who still prefers doing dev work on a desktop?

I'm on a laptop right now because of WFH, but even with a full "desktop" setup (dock, 2 external monitors, external keyboard/mouse, etc), it's not as pleasant as using a desktop. Crappy graphics, a low power CPU (and only 2 cores), not as much drive space, etc. Even if I get the highest spec laptop available, for the same money a desktop will blow it out of the water.

Maybe if you're traveling a LOT it'd make sense but I have to imagine for the vast majority of people, they're in one spot most of the time. That could be a desk in an office or a fixed spot somewhere at home.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by recursive »

jjoonathan wrote: post #162
recursive wrote: post #158

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Scalpers don't keep them. They redistribute them to normal customers.

...at elevated prices. "How much blood did the leech suck?" is a valid question. Dollars would be better units than number of video cards, but the number of video cards passing through the leeches correlates and is still meaningful.

...at elevated prices ...that the buyers were willing to pay.

All non-zero prices are elevated compared to zero. All parties are consenting here.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by TomVDB »

DCKing wrote: post #166
TomVDB wrote: post #137

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Check out the November Steam results. The RTX 3080 is already at 0.23%. After just 1 month. If you don’t think that’s impressive, compare it against some AMD GPUs like the 5700 or the 5600 XT, which has the same share. There’s a reason Nvidia’s quarterly gaming results where a blowout. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

Not saying that's not impressive, but you had me thinking for a second that Nvidia was already going past AMD's previous top end card. But that's actually the 5700XT, which is 4.5x as popular as the RX5700 non-XT. The RX5700 is not as widely available in the first place if my understanding is correct. But yeah Nvidia in general has got the market for gamers pretty much cornered. People will go for Nvidia all the time…

Don’t you find it mind blowing that after such a short time on the market, it already has 1/5th of the share of a 5700 XT?

Of course it won’t come close yet to the 2000 series. But what it shows without a doubt is that there was plenty of supply and that gamers bought it.

There is no reason to think at this time that supply was lower than any other launch before it.

But demand was way higher.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by SomeoneFromCA »

fmajid wrote: post #111
fortran77 wrote: post #53

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Exactly. Intel is hardly being left "in the dust."

In the enthusiast segment where people build their own machines, perhaps. AMD is yet to get traction in the mass volume corporate desktop/laptop markets, although they have also taken significant market share in the lucrative server market.

Corporate desktop market is interested in exclusively cpu with integrated videos, cheap motherboards and low idle consumption. AMD fails in at least two of these points.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by eloff »

mdoms wrote: post #142
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

This is "no one drives in New York, there's too much traffic" levels of logic.

More like a soft launch from AMD. They launched with a very limited amount of stock available.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by wazoox »

xxpor wrote: post #172
wazoox wrote: post #22

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I've replaced my aging and failing 2013 XPS with a Ryzen 5 IdeaPad S540, cheap and slightly bigger but has a second internal M.2 slot, SD card slot, RAM upgraded to 32GB, and full size HDMI and USB A connectors for less than 900€. I'm happy with the upgrade, even if this machine won't last as long as the XPS (though its full metal case is sturdy enough).

Am I the only one who still prefers doing dev work on a desktop? I'm on a laptop right now because of WFH, but even with a full "desktop" setup (dock, 2 external monitors, external keyboard/mouse, etc), it's not as pleasant as using a desktop. Crappy graphics, a low power CPU (and only 2 cores), not as much drive space, etc. Even if I get the highest spec laptop available, for the same money a desktop will blow it ou…

I have a desktop at work and use the laptop for working from home or elsewhere. Though my new laptop (4 cores, 8 threads, 32 GB of RAM, Vega graphics) is markedly faster than my desktop now :)

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by mulletbum »

sandworm101 wrote: post #155
mdoms wrote: post #142

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This is "no one drives in New York, there's too much traffic" levels of logic.

Not really. There is an infinite available of cars that may be driven into NY. There is only a finite number of CPUs available. I have money and want a CPU but cannot get one. I doubt there is anyone in NY who cannot find a car for sale.

Luckily there are a bunch of other CPUs for sale too.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by eloff »

013a wrote: post #147
eloff wrote: post #3

What sales, they hardly had any stock available. I've been trying since the release to get my hands on a Ryzen 5900x and they're sold out everywhere. I'm trying to get on a waiting list for it now, fingers crossed that they can deliver before the new year.

> What sales, they hardly had any stock available. No one goes to Disney World anymore; its too crowded. And, no one buys AMD CPUs anymore, they're always sold out!

It's a supply side phenomenon, not demand side. AMD launched the 5900 with very little stock. To be fair the sales the article is discussing are most of the other product lines, and they mention the issue.

Re: AMD CPU sales skyrocket with Ryzen 5000 launch, leaving Intel in the dust

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Post by eloff »

usrusr wrote: post #129
fmajid wrote: post #105

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A faster compiling machine is the difference between sustaining a state of flow critical to developer productivity, or not. Paying even $5000 for a desktop that yields probably a 2x improvement in productivity for someone paid at least $10K a month is a total no-brainer.

Compile time impact is a very non-linear thing. There's a narrow band that could be called the distraction threshold. An investment in faster hardware will give very small returns if you are already below that range and only moderate returns when so far above that the investments only gets you a little closer. But when the speedup crosses that narrow band or at least significant parts of it, it's a night and day diff…

Once it goes over about twenty seconds for me, I'm switching tasks or checking my email (or worse, HN.)

Keeping that compile time down is critical to being productive.

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