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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Federation is also super useful if you're a multinational, since each geographic location could still operate autonomously in the face of an inability to route to the broader Internet. And with a protocol like Matrix, you're able to recover gracefully when federation is restored.

This is nice to have, but how often does that really happen?

Even once is usually enough, for the larger companies.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I'm not a slack power user, but I feel that it's a bit like IRC but with a fancy (and slow) GUI wrapped around it. Certainly I am wrong, but how wrong?

It’s the same distance as between Dropbox and a Git + Rsync setup. The later will work the same for half a percent of the users, but the 99.5% left would be crying tears of blood. I remember Mozilla employees’ blogs about the contraptions they had at individual levels to make IRC fully work for them, and you just can’t ask that to the HR recruiting intern.

I remember having an IRC client that supported adding your own client-side perl scripts to do all sorts of nifty automations in the 90s. I wonder what kind of magic IRC bots could do today with the natural language processing we have available now. But you make a fair point. I guess even if you are working at a small start-up with 100% hardcore computer-science types, as soon as you expand to include your own employees for HR, payroll, sales, marketing etc. you'll realize most people started using computers after UX was a thing.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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They started out trying to make an MMO, ended up making Flickr instead. Then they tried making another MMO, but ended up making Slack instead. I really hope they get cracking on another MMO soon.

What is an MMO? Massive Multiplayer Online?

Short for MMORPG or massively multiplayer online role-playing game.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I don't think this is true. You can't really join/leave channels on Discord (yes I'm aware you can use roles to give permissions but it's not the same).

I've never used Slack but in Microsoft Teams there are Teams and Channels and they pretty much map 1:1 to Discord's Servers and Text Channels. You cannot leave individual channels of a Team though you can mute them and you have even less permissions than Discord. So maybe it isn't a 1:1 replacement for Slack but it certainly could compete in the field.

Teams is garbage compared to Discord or even Slack imo. Complete garbage UI.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I'm somewhat surprised that Amazon didn't end up acquiring Slack, considering that the major thing they are missing compared to Microsoft is productivity tools. If they had purchased Dropbox and Slack they could've gotten a foothold rather quickly and slowed down one of Microsoft's major selling points (you already use Office, why not Azure?). Discord could be another interesting company in the chat space, as I'm sur…

> as I'm sure they are considering an enterprise play (if they aren't they are insane, considering they have one of the more user friendly chat services and with SSO and a SLA they could probably charge $10 per user).

I truly hope not. I like discord for its informal, gaming, and specifically not enterprise or "professional" approach/atmosphere. I use it to chat with friends and talk in some communities (eg. programming ones).

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My large disappointment with Google's Cloud Platform offering was lack of commitment to parity features. I am sorry but the concept of "Beta release level" is a complete misfire/mismatch for what an enterprise needs. For example, you cannot, on one hand, advertise that you have a competitive feature (Google Functions competing with AWS Lambda), but then, on the other hand, turn around and label it beta and basically…

That enterprise need reliability in Office land is a myth and MS is pumping out half baked systems just like Google. Flow, Teams, Lists, Planner, Sway, Stream, Forms, Kaizala... Sorry, but these aren't battle tested enterprise apps at all. Could as well pull random apps from the Google store. Whenever something new releases the first reaction already is "not again"...

These apps are not why enterprise uses Microsoft though. Heck, in our 90k employees corp we don't use any of those

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Teams is the new Skype > everyone has Teams for free Prevalent sentiment at my workplace: Teams integrates well for outlook meetings, but it‘s a CPU hog, has crappy chat UI. It paralyzes work to the extent, that I only prefer to use Slack. Or zoom for bigger video calls.

Exactly. I work at a large financial company and we have: Teams, Slack, Skype and Zoom. - Zoom for large team meeting - Slack for collaboration between our teams - Skype for upper management meetings who are still only know Skype - Teams is free with office subscription and our company has been pushing everyone to use it instead of using slack but everyone hates Teams. Terrible UI and slow

how is UI terrible? I've been amazed by Teams and what it offers to me out of the box..

I've been using slack/mattermost/discord And functionality wise only discord can be onpar with teams.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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For me the fascinating headline here is the 86% gross margins. FY2020 gross revenue at Slack was $630.4m, GAAP gross profit $533.2m [1]. SaaS apps are comically, stupidly profitable at scale. That's educational. [1] https://slack.com/blog/news/slack-announces-fourth-quarter-a...

The subscription model is a true modernized return to the good old ways of creating a product that sells because it’s good quality. How? If a user is not satisfied, they will stop paying. Slack has all the incentives to improve their product, especially in the face of competition.

Is it true though? People could use Slack because other people use it and it is hard to coordinate the switch. Also better the devil you know...

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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They started out trying to make an MMO, ended up making Flickr instead. Then they tried making another MMO, but ended up making Slack instead. I really hope they get cracking on another MMO soon.

Making an MMO is an incredibly hard but rewarding endeavor. There are so many subsystems that you can design and program that you will never end the game; but you will end much wiser.

until you have an established player base and are using 95% or your time for balancing and the economy (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sumZLwFXJqE)
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