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Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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They started out trying to make an MMO, ended up making Flickr instead. Then they tried making another MMO, but ended up making Slack instead. I really hope they get cracking on another MMO soon.

Making an MMO is an incredibly hard but rewarding endeavor. There are so many subsystems that you can design and program that you will never end the game; but you will end much wiser.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I have no idea what that is and I've used GSuite for decades.

gsuite hasn't existed for decades.

You mean weeks. GSuite was renamed to Workspace in October 2020. https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/workspace/introducing...

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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gsuite hasn't existed for decades.

I don't think that's right, it's called Workplace now and I don't think it's been that long since they changed up the name. https://workspace.google.com/

No I mean the product that constitutes gsuite hasn't existed for 20 years. Gmail is 2004. drive, which is really the start of gsuite, is only 8 years old.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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I'm somewhat surprised that Amazon didn't end up acquiring Slack, considering that the major thing they are missing compared to Microsoft is productivity tools. If they had purchased Dropbox and Slack they could've gotten a foothold rather quickly and slowed down one of Microsoft's major selling points (you already use Office, why not Azure?). Discord could be another interesting company in the chat space, as I'm sur…

They'd have to acquire so much more - it's AD, Office and Exchange that keep Microsoft embedded in the enterprise. Hosted AD on Azure and Office 365 are _so good_ that nobody is coming close, not even Google.

Hear hear, here's to products getting the job done well and reliably, untouchably. If you want to come anywhere near close, you have to put out something considerably better and I've yet to see that. Maybe Google Docs is starting to get there. Still I see expert users driving towards Microsoft Excel, for example. Because they are productive with it like you wouldn't believe.

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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They'd have to acquire so much more - it's AD, Office and Exchange that keep Microsoft embedded in the enterprise. Hosted AD on Azure and Office 365 are _so good_ that nobody is coming close, not even Google.

You nailed it, Google product managers, specially in Cloud lack the Enterprise expertise. They need to get that a company with IT staff already went through updating NT to Windows 2000 and then 2008 and deploying Linux and Active Directory and Exchange 5.5, 2k..etc...many MS products which were de facto for any large Company, if you can't integrate with it you will never have a solid footstep into the Enterprise worl…

My large disappointment with Google's Cloud Platform offering was lack of commitment to parity features.

I am sorry but the concept of "Beta release level" is a complete misfire/mismatch for what an enterprise needs. For example, you cannot, on one hand, advertise that you have a competitive feature (Google Functions competing with AWS Lambda), but then, on the other hand, turn around and label it beta and basically use that an an excuse for inferior reliability and inferior documentation. How can you basically GA a major piece of platform functionality, call it beta, and then ask any enterprise (that has lower risk tolerance) to use it? Enterprises don't want to invest into beta-labelled features, because they know it's an excuse for bugs and half-baked support. No wonder GCP is struggling for adoption.

("beta release" level is a conversation you have with select trusted partners that are willing to tolerate your early stuff in exchange for early access to value... it is not something that is acceptable to advertise as open enrollment to all)

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The one that is built into every GSuite/Workspace account. For free. Google Chat.

I would love to that you are right - but it not so easy. I have two G Suite domains and I'm utterly and absolutely confused. - in one domain I have "Chat" just under "Important" messages. But somehow I cannot send any chats. I see only chats from 2018 or so (when they shutdown Gmail Chat). The cool thing is that they look like read email messages. But I cannot send any chat. - in other domain I have "Hangouts" but no…

The "Chats" under "Important" is a gmail tag/label for the messages that are archived into your gmail account from the messaging app.

Messages sent in Google Hangouts on my own domain today show up in my email under the "Chats" label, so this functionality is still working -- if you use the right/latest app, I guess.

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You nailed it, Google product managers, specially in Cloud lack the Enterprise expertise. They need to get that a company with IT staff already went through updating NT to Windows 2000 and then 2008 and deploying Linux and Active Directory and Exchange 5.5, 2k..etc...many MS products which were de facto for any large Company, if you can't integrate with it you will never have a solid footstep into the Enterprise worl…

My large disappointment with Google's Cloud Platform offering was lack of commitment to parity features. I am sorry but the concept of "Beta release level" is a complete misfire/mismatch for what an enterprise needs. For example, you cannot, on one hand, advertise that you have a competitive feature (Google Functions competing with AWS Lambda), but then, on the other hand, turn around and label it beta and basically…

Agree I heard they are changing the release process, they call it private early access now and then they will make it GA directly, no more alpha, beta and GA. But I think your point still is valid. Watching Re-invent today, just helped me realize that many Google Products are playing catch up and once launched Product managers and Eng team move somewhere else as there is no incentive to get promoted, this means your GA product may be understaffed or supported by new staff and at the end dead. Look at Cloud Datalab and the mess they have in ML world (Kaggle, Colab, AI Platform Notebooks, plans for new editor...etc)

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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post #473

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The one that is built into every GSuite/Workspace account. For free. Google Chat.

I would love to that you are right - but it not so easy. I have two G Suite domains and I'm utterly and absolutely confused. - in one domain I have "Chat" just under "Important" messages. But somehow I cannot send any chats. I see only chats from 2018 or so (when they shutdown Gmail Chat). The cool thing is that they look like read email messages. But I cannot send any chat. - in other domain I have "Hangouts" but no…

Maybe your domain admin hasn't enabled the new app?

https://support.google.com/a/answer/9071576?hl=en

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. That was already a losing battle when Twitch made the purchase though so they ended up stripping out all of those features. It would have made more sense for them to buy Discord back then. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/Ending-Support-for-Voice-Ch...

> Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. Curse Voice released in June 2015. Discord released in May 2015. At best you could fudge the numbers and claim that Discord and Curse came out at the same time. A claim that Curse Voice was anything before Discord existed is flat out false.

Curse Voice actually released in early 2014[1][2]. I remember mainly because that year is burned into my memory from the CTO at the time snapping his fingers non-stop into microphones testing noise/echo cancellation and latency.

[1] https://www.player.one/curse-voice-vc-funded-skype-gamers-be...

[2] https://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/curse-gets-a-million-game...

Re: Salesforce Signs Definitive Agreement to Acquire Slack

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Google chat, lol. Which one? Google Wave? Google Buzz? Google Talk? Google Hangouts? Google Allo? Google Duo? Google Meet? Google chat that came with Google Apps? Or G Suite? Or Google Workspace?

Google Chat, they have exactly one enterprise messenger (surprising, right?).

No they don't?
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