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Over Half of U.S. Young Adults Now Live with Their Parents

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Re: Over Half of U.S. Young Adults Now Live with Their Parents

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Post by iJohnDoe »

at_a_remove wrote: post #44

I have been taking care of my elderly mother, who would be vaguely defined as "not well" in the Southern sense of things, since my twenties. I did go into it with my eyes open, knowing the kinds of tradeoffs I was making. I could live alone, but this was a choice I made to help her. However, I was unprepared in the extreme for the ambient hostility toward men who live with their mothers, no matter the reason. I do no…

For what it’s worth, from my experience, it’s a bad sign when a woman still lives with their parents (mom). The negative stigma should go both ways.

When a woman lives with their parents it can be a sign of a few things, such as self entitlement, failure to launch, and parents that still have control over her. These will make for a rough relationship with a woman in this situation. These could be taken as generalizations, but like I said, the negative stigma needs to go both ways.

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #109
AnimalMuppet wrote: post #108

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You can live that kind of life now, but it's not the default. You'd have only one car. You wouldn't have the latest anything, whether car, computer, or sneakers. You might not even have cable. But yes, I think you can do it. In fact, my cousin-in-law has done so. (He may have an AA degree - not sure.)

So poverty/quality of life is a measure/function of comparison with the highest quality of life available to the wealthiest demographic. Would that be a right way to phrase it? That is why poor in India is diff from poor in California. Even though to the poor in India, the Californian poverty seems like the stuff of kings. Etc.

That isn't the way I would phrase it, but it has some truth to it.

In the 1950s, in the US, you could live on one income of a high-school graduate. Today, you still can... but you have to live a 1950s lifestyle.

But if you look at what the wealthiest (or even the upper middle class) have, no, you can't do that. If that becomes your measure of "how you're supposed to live", then no, you can't live on one income.

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Post by hn_user82179 »

at_a_remove wrote: post #75
throwitaway4421 wrote: post #72

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> upon finding out my situation, make it abundantly clear that they would not date me, despite me not asking. I refer to this as "pre-jection." That sounds awful. How exactly do they go about this?

Just as an example: one gal asked about my living situation, with regards to roommates. I was forthright about it, gave a little "what can you do?" shrug. I was a little startled as her vocal tone immediately changed to a mocking one as she delivered a "Awww, widdle at_a_remove wivves with his Mooo-mmy!" and then sneered. (Note that this person would describe herself as kind, liberal, thoughtful, and so on) Similarly…

Bizarre. I'd like to think the majority of people don't fall into "baby talk" - that's just incredibly immature. To be honest, they sound like terrible people and probably aren't people that you'd want to date.

I'm not sure of your age but I'm sure it'll be less of an issue as you grow older, and the dating pool around you also starts dealing with aging parents, and they understand the difficulties.

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Post by ryan-allen »

at_a_remove wrote: post #44

I have been taking care of my elderly mother, who would be vaguely defined as "not well" in the Southern sense of things, since my twenties. I did go into it with my eyes open, knowing the kinds of tradeoffs I was making. I could live alone, but this was a choice I made to help her. However, I was unprepared in the extreme for the ambient hostility toward men who live with their mothers, no matter the reason. I do no…

> I have been taking care of my elderly mother

It's unfair that this is stigmatised, I think it's a good and noble thing to look after elderly parents.

It's not so common in the west, but it's very common in other cultures, I think we get that part wrong in western society.

I couldn't bear the fact that my mother was in a nursing home. If she ever needs care I wont be sending her to something like that, I'll do what you're doing.

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Post by DeonPenny »

watwut wrote: post #65
DeonPenny wrote: post #28

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Because married people throughout time are wealthier. Married people make more money, married millenials own 70% of all the houses millenials have bought, married people are half as likely to be in proverty. If you have to choose a way for people to get wealthy between a college degree and marriage marriage would be the better decision by far.

Marriage does not make people wealthy at all. Instead, wealth makes people more likely to marry. People with real issues, whether mental or criminal or sick etcetc both don't marry and have significantly smaller income. People with issues divorce more often and have smaller income too.

Except for the fact that we know people with lower income become wealthier than peoeple with lower incomes. And we know that the poverty rate for married lower income people is twice as low as the poverty rate for singles.

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Post by flycaliguy »

at_a_remove wrote: post #75
throwitaway4421 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> upon finding out my situation, make it abundantly clear that they would not date me, despite me not asking. I refer to this as "pre-jection." That sounds awful. How exactly do they go about this?

Just as an example: one gal asked about my living situation, with regards to roommates. I was forthright about it, gave a little "what can you do?" shrug. I was a little startled as her vocal tone immediately changed to a mocking one as she delivered a "Awww, widdle at_a_remove wivves with his Mooo-mmy!" and then sneered. (Note that this person would describe herself as kind, liberal, thoughtful, and so on) Similarly…

The "I could never date..." girl could have been an opening to challenge her a bit. If you want to date more you just have to come up with some good zingers to counter their "shit-test".

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Post by DeonPenny »

ntsplnkv2 wrote: post #106
DeonPenny wrote: post #30

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Yeh and people are givin that for a college degree yet that is associated with wealth even though married highschool educated people out earn single college educated people. Forget what the government does its generally easier to build wealth with two people than one. Theres more flexibility to prevent failure.

I'm sorry, but aren't you pointing out the obvious? Of course 2 people make more money than one. Are you saying that the individual that is married makes more than a single college educated person? Also I'd question that statistic - the older you are the more likely you are married and more likely you are further in your career.

Yeh but what you think I am saying is a married high school educated person make more as a couple than a single unmarried college educated person. Except thats not true. The married college educated man alone makes more than the single unmarried college educated women/man typically.

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Post by DeonPenny »

Retric wrote: post #16
Kluny wrote: post #8

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Two people working together can generate more wealth than one person working alone. It's not a controversial concept.

By that token so can 20 people working together.

yes its called a company

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Post by isabelc »

at_a_remove wrote: post #44

I have been taking care of my elderly mother, who would be vaguely defined as "not well" in the Southern sense of things, since my twenties. I did go into it with my eyes open, knowing the kinds of tradeoffs I was making. I could live alone, but this was a choice I made to help her. However, I was unprepared in the extreme for the ambient hostility toward men who live with their mothers, no matter the reason. I do no…

>However, I was unprepared in the extreme for the ambient hostility toward men who live with their mothers, no matter the reason.

My mother taught me young, "Watch how a guy treats his mother because that's how he'll treat his future wife." I've observed it to be true, as a grown woman. There is hope for those like you because there must be others who know this pearl of wisdom.

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