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Over Half of U.S. Young Adults Now Live with Their Parents

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Post by toomuchtodo »

at_a_remove wrote: post #89
toomuchtodo wrote: post #88

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It's a quality litmus test for partner material. I steered clear of anyone who took issue with me having to provide a material amount of care for a parent (and that parent living with me) before they passed. Someone who belittles you for being a compassionate human being has no place in your present, nor your future (imho). As @stronglikedan says in a comment in this thread, "most people suck." It's a bit broad, but…

If I were in a stronger position with regards to dating, I could certainly see that. However, I have descended past "beggars can't be choosers" into the benthic depths of "even if I didn't have this working against me ..." Right now it is merely a sad observation from the permanently sidelined.

I have found relationships in the most unexpected of places and circumstances, and I wish you the same. There are good, decent folks out there waiting to be found.

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

petra wrote: post #49
honkycat wrote: post #18

The US is a gerontocracy. We are going to end up exactly like Japan, a whole generation of young people passing on kids due to economic and environmental stress with no-one to replace them. The stats tell the story. Young people are the largest part of the workforce[0], but we work for lower wages and have a TINY amount of the wealth in comparison to older generations[1]. The number of my friends who are hamstrung by…

So the economic situation in the US is not as amazing as it was before. So what ? Compared to the rest of the world, people in the US have it easy. Heck, in many places in the western world, people can't even afford to buy an apartment , which many in the US own or will own houses.

People in Pakistan and afghanistan can legally be in debt bondage to their landlords.

US citizens have it on easy mode.

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

52-6F-62 wrote: post #84
honkycat wrote: post #77

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I will say that I got a useful degree ( computer science ) from a university I could afford and have already paid off my debt. I mostly agree, I don't know what people were thinking what was going to happen when they majored in underwater basket weaving. I don't pretend know why people chose to go so deeply into debt. I do know a lot of smart people I respect made this decision, so it is more complicated than simply…

> underwater basket weaving Do such smart people really still think this of subjects that don't have a pre-drawn straight line to a comparable paycheque to their own?

The fact that kids go for art in a state school that isn't renowned for their art program says yes.

There's nothing wrong with going for underwater basket weaving if you know and have a plan to do just that. The average college student just associates that student loans == "worry about it later!" && Student loan == "I'll get a 50-60k job out of college no problem!"

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

danhak wrote: post #56
veed99 wrote: post #47

Most 18-22 years waste 4 years in university not acquiring any skills that would help them in a competitive job market. As a result, they move back in with mom and dad at age 22, now thousands of dollars in debt.

Increases in housing and healthcare costs have been absolutely dwarfing wage growth in most major metros, for decades now. This "it's your fault for majoring in gender studies" meme is a red herring. There was a time in the U.S. where one parent could support a family and purchase a house while the other stayed at home with the kids. With nothing more than a high school diploma.

There are dozens of sub 100k homes where I live and plenty of nice apartments sub $800. And that's a midwest state known for having some of the highest real estate taxes in the country.

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Post by MeinBlutIstBlau »

paulpauper wrote: post #61
danhak wrote: post #56

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Increases in housing and healthcare costs have been absolutely dwarfing wage growth in most major metros, for decades now. This "it's your fault for majoring in gender studies" meme is a red herring. There was a time in the U.S. where one parent could support a family and purchase a house while the other stayed at home with the kids. With nothing more than a high school diploma.

Additionally, only a small percentage of grads major in the humanities and social sciences despite all the hype and blame such subjects get . https://greyenlightenment.com/how-popular-are-gender-studies... most people major in more 'actionable' subjects such as business, nursing, phycology, etc.

Psychology is equivalent to humanities imo only because you need a graduate degree to actually get a job in that field.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

DeonPenny wrote: post #30
nemothekid wrote: post #3

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Feel like you are putting the cart before the horse here. It's not like the government gives you a house and 40 acres for getting married.

Yeh and people are givin that for a college degree yet that is associated with wealth even though married highschool educated people out earn single college educated people. Forget what the government does its generally easier to build wealth with two people than one. Theres more flexibility to prevent failure.

I'm sorry, but aren't you pointing out the obvious? Of course 2 people make more money than one. Are you saying that the individual that is married makes more than a single college educated person?

Also I'd question that statistic - the older you are the more likely you are married and more likely you are further in your career.

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Post by ntsplnkv2 »

dcolkitt wrote: post #43
tw04 wrote: post #7

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I think it would be helpful and you wouldn't be getting negative reactions if you actually posted some examples. I can't think of a single thing government has done to "roadblock marriage". Under the Obama administration marriage benefits were extended to same-sex couples EXPANDING the government's push for more people to be married. https://web.archive.org/web/20161110003040/https://www.justi...

> I can't think of a single thing government has done to "roadblock marriage". Land use restrictions, housing regulations, and zoning laws substantially increase housing costs. Affordable family formation is the major driver of marriage rates. Housing costs are the primary component of affordable family formation.

There are plenty of places where you can find affordable housing in the US. Are marriage rates the same there?

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

jelliclesfarm wrote: post #100
danhak wrote: post #56

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Increases in housing and healthcare costs have been absolutely dwarfing wage growth in most major metros, for decades now. This "it's your fault for majoring in gender studies" meme is a red herring. There was a time in the U.S. where one parent could support a family and purchase a house while the other stayed at home with the kids. With nothing more than a high school diploma.

what kind of life did they lead? is it comprable to life as we know it now?

You can live that kind of life now, but it's not the default. You'd have only one car. You wouldn't have the latest anything, whether car, computer, or sneakers. You might not even have cable. But yes, I think you can do it. In fact, my cousin-in-law has done so. (He may have an AA degree - not sure.)

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Post by jelliclesfarm »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #108
jelliclesfarm wrote: post #100

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what kind of life did they lead? is it comprable to life as we know it now?

You can live that kind of life now, but it's not the default. You'd have only one car. You wouldn't have the latest anything, whether car, computer, or sneakers. You might not even have cable. But yes, I think you can do it. In fact, my cousin-in-law has done so. (He may have an AA degree - not sure.)

So poverty/quality of life is a measure/function of comparison with the highest quality of life available to the wealthiest demographic. Would that be a right way to phrase it?

That is why poor in India is diff from poor in California. Even though to the poor in India, the Californian poverty seems like the stuff of kings. Etc.

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Post by trianglem »

watwut wrote: post #94
trianglem wrote: post #85

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Well anecdotally the only good marriages I’ve seen adhere to the above. The partner provides feedback but have no say in the final decision. In a marriage one person needs to be submissive. I’ve been married for more than a decade and we’ve never been happier. Individual agency is only important if you don’t have a community based aspect to your life that respects you explicitly for the larger good your submissive ro…

You are happy and that is all that matters? Yeah, exactly the issue with that setup. It is you first, then some nonsense about why other has to sacrifice for community.

I said we are happy. Both my wife and I.
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