Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the popular reply to that is "orphans with leukemia"
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/comedian-mike-ward-seeks-permiss...
I'm not sure joking about drowning someone meets the usual definition of criticism.
YouTube shadowbans video titled “The CIA is a Terrorist Organization”
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#122The shadow ban isn’t even the scariest part of the thread! The Department of Homeland Security confronted him about a video about police brutality: > A few months ago I uploaded a video about police brutality. It showed explicit acts of violence by the police, and it was understandably age-gated. The video was appropriate only for older audiences, but did not break any of YouTube's terms and conditions. > That video…
Well I have encountered this article a while ago - "How CIA made Google": https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/how-the-cia-made-goo... From this perspective, youtube blocking CIA criticizing video seems like something completely normal.
It's not normal, even if there is such a connection. If there is such, it's way more powerful if it's kept in secret. In which instance does the CIA benefit more? If people believe that GAFAM are a front of the CIA and thus enemies avoid GAFAM products? Or if enemies of the CIA use GAFAM products, believing that data collection is only done to improve ads?
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
That quote seems to be coming from nazist and convict Kevin Alfred Strom, not Voltaire. According to Wikipedia, the full quote is "To determine the true rulers of any society, all you must do is ask yourself this question: Who is it that I am not permitted to criticize?" and Strom first published "All America Must Know the Terror that is Upon Us" in 1993. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/27/cory-..…
I'm pretty sure Voltaire didn't say it in English, meaning the full quote above it like the one that parent comment said was like something Voltaire said - a translation of something that Voltaire actually said. In that case I think the two translations convey the meaning about equally well, and I don't think that because one translation comes from a bad person makes it any worse a translation of what Voltaire intend…
> I'm pretty sure Voltaire didn't say it in English, meaning the full quote above it like the one that parent comment said was like something Voltaire said - a translation of something that Voltaire actually said.
Dr Paul Gibbard, of the University of Western Australia, one of the world’s leading experts in Voltaire who worked as a researcher at the Voltaire Foundation in Oxford, disagrees with you and says that Voltaire never said anything like that, in English or what I presume could also be French. Source for that: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/nov/27/cory-...
And I never meant to say that the quote is good/bad/wrong/correct, simply that it was mis-attributed to Voltaire, when in reality doesn't seem to come from him.
Re: YouTube shadowbans video titled “The CIA is a Terrorist Organization”
#124Just watched the video, read the thread. Here are some thoughts. First of all, the video uploader is promoting a competitor to YouTube. This is not disclaimed clearly. The video goes over criticism to the CIA, which are fair enough. But it takes some things as axioms, for example, that only the US are interfering/meddling in the world. He presents it as "the US is the bad guy and the world would be fair without the C…
the video uploader is promoting his own competitor to youtube, a streaming service. that is mentioned in the end of the video, and it should really be mentioned in the thread title.
Yeah, I did not mean that it's being shadowbanned because of it, but his criticism (to YouTube) are biased by definition.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
the video uploader is promoting his own competitor to youtube, a streaming service. that is mentioned in the end of the video, and it should really be mentioned in the thread title.
There are dozens of YouTubers on that platform who regularly advertise it in their videos on YouTube. Doubt that has anything to do with this.
It doesn't, but it also means the author has a bias against YouTube to promote the other platform.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/comedian-mike-ward-seeks-permiss...
That meets the "can't criticize" criteria, but not the "are your masters" criteria, unless there's some sort of secret cabal of disabled boys ruling over us.
right, which means that Voltaire's quip, although clever as everything he said, did not happen to actually cover all the possibilities of censorship in every possible society.
In his time, certainly, the people you couldn't criticize were the rulers, in our time there is a wider range of people you can't criticize.
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#127The shadow ban isn’t even the scariest part of the thread! The Department of Homeland Security confronted him about a video about police brutality: > A few months ago I uploaded a video about police brutality. It showed explicit acts of violence by the police, and it was understandably age-gated. The video was appropriate only for older audiences, but did not break any of YouTube's terms and conditions. > That video…
The DHS was established in the panic following 9/11. If they're knocking on doors trying to intimidate dissidents, it seems clear that it has outlived its usefulness (if it ever had any) and should be dismantled.
You'd think that would be something small-government republicans progressive democrats could agree on...
Re: YouTube shadowbans video titled “The CIA is a Terrorist Organization”
#128Just watched the video, read the thread. Here are some thoughts. First of all, the video uploader is promoting a competitor to YouTube. This is not disclaimed clearly. The video goes over criticism to the CIA, which are fair enough. But it takes some things as axioms, for example, that only the US are interfering/meddling in the world. He presents it as "the US is the bad guy and the world would be fair without the C…
>First of all, the video uploader is promoting a competitor to YouTube. This is not disclaimed clearly. If you're referring to the nebula ad at the end, he and other youtubers have been advertising it for months, if not years now. No other video with a nebula ad has been shadow banned like this. Also, trying to paint this as "Youtube isn't promoting it" is disingenuous. Youtube is hiding it from people who've explici…
Not my point, my point is that because he has other sponsors that heads-on compete with Youtube, his views about YouTube are not unbiased. He gains something when he promotes Nebula, in hopes to gain even more than what he makes on YouTube.
Now about the promoting, it is my bad, I thought that YouTube wasn't showing it in frontpage, not that it was literally removed from search. I tried searching for the video and it indeed doesn't show in the results. That's a negative point for YouTube.
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#129OP makes a bunch of tweets alleging mistreatment and foul play with a completely valid response by the host, YouTube, yet he continues to claim baselessly without proof he is wronged. Sounds like a certain president.
Present proof or leave the conspiracies to 4chan.
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#130worst country on this planet. "the world police", who just wants to bring democracy to 3rd world countries by killing hundred thousands innocent civilians... good gob