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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Зебра (zebra) in Russian too, especially if you're referring to the road markings themselves. I find recaptchas downright humiliating. I think twice before completing one — is whatever it grants access to worth it?

If you use a browser which blocks fingerprinting, CAPTCHA may fail you 3-4 times even if you give correct answers. CAPTCHA was giving me anger management issues last few weeks until I realized I can just open same URL in another browser and then most of the time it doesn't even ask for CAPTCHA because the fingerprinting is so accurate it knows who I am (or it lets me in after the first round).

I mean... add to that the fact that my ISP literally uses a single public IP address for all its subscribers, and then it's no wonder I hate this stuff. Googling anything in a private window is a gamble. This and Cloudflare. Cloudflare is the worst.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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I've come to the conclusion that most bots are not that sophisticated. Basic CSRF-protection seems to eliminate most automated requests and the need for captchas.

That is true for crawling bots which hit simple web forms. Also using some JavaScript kills most of them. Although such methods won't work with targeted bot attack.

I would say in my experience CSRF-protection has proven very effective at even preventing targeted password brute-force.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Doesn't sound like IQ tests at all.

That's the point. They were never intended to objectively assess intelligence. They were designed to reinforce the dominant culture. Just like Google's tests do now.

I don't know much about the history of these tests. Can Hanlon's razor principle be applied here?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Google it, heh. The way I learned it, a "car" is any roofed 4+ wheeled vehicle up to van and SUV size (yeah, more Americanisms). Pickup trucks and larger are "trucks".

Is the Reliant Robin not a car then?

Ha, you got me!

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Same in the UK and most commonwealth countries I think

In Australia zebra crossings are a type of pedestrian crossing where pedestrians always have right of way.

Isn't that what everybody else is talking about too?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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I absolutely don't aim to defend Googles captcha here, but the other day I was setting up an Outlook account for my son, and I ran into Arkose Labs bot detection, and I actually got heatedly angry, which is extremely rare for me. I wanted to punch anyone related to that abomination. Upon researching it seems to be used by the Epic launcher and Roblox (among others), which might explain why I've never encountered it b…

Adding insult to injury, it seems pretty easy to write a quick image filter + path finding algo to solve these... as apparently all the walls have solid borders, while none of the walkable paths have them. So a targeted bot should have a much easier time solving these than a human.

Reminds me of https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-06-05

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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And in India, they are commonly refereed to as "Zebra Crossing". No one refers to them as cross-walks and most have no idea about that term.

Zebrastreifen ("zebra stripes") is the German colloquial name. You will hardly find anybody (at least in my parts) calling them the proper official "Fußgängerüberweg" (pedestrian overpath/pedestrian crossing). Even most police will call them Zebrastreifen except sometimes when writing reports or in court. I failed a few recaptchas like that too, tho not due to language barrier, but because I didn't pick some things t…

A pedestrian overpath is above the road level and better translated as "Fußgängerbrücke".

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Let Googles AI solve Googles CAPTCHAs for you! "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans" is one of my top 3 browser extensions.

So we have "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans", "uBlock Origin" and what is the last one?

TabMixPlus of course.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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There are no Zebras in Indian subcontinent; we accepted Anglo term. Cross-Walk(even Pedestrian) is a better term than Zebra-Crossing; for kids though, Zebra helps. Edit: English were in world over making colonies across Afro-Asian countries. https://www.thehindu.com/in-school/sh-science/The-zebra-in-o... Has anyone seen a Zebra cross a zebra-crossing? Only happens in England.

I am not sure what to make of this argument. We adopted English, the language from the British. The standard colonial oppression arguments already start from why use a foreign Language. They used zebra crossing (even though there are no Zebras in the UK either, I think), so we used it. Now the new argument is that the cultural imperialism of the US is forcing us to change the term again. Sure, the term "cross-walk" s…

We do have Zebra, have you never heard of a Zoo? (I jest; you are of course correct).

As for cross-walk making more sense; Zebra crossing are so named because of the black and white stripes they comprise of, they require you to have seen one, yes, but, I'd argue that without context "cross-walk" is no more descriptive.

Collectively, we call our crossings (Toucan, Pelican, Zebra, Pegasus), "road crossings". They are so named due to their properties; Toucan because "two (types of user) can" cross there, Pelican (formerly pelicon) because it stands for PEdestrian LIght C[O]Ntrolled crossing), Zebra for its stripes, and Pegasus due to the buttons being accessible at heights suitable for those riding horses.

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