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CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

#171

I'm not American and I often see captchas that ask about "cars" or "trucks". And they use similar images. I sometimes don't pass through those. My question is, when I see a truck and I'm being asked to select all cars, should I select the truck or not? For me a truck is a car. Is it not one?

Google it, heh.

The way I learned it, a "car" is any roofed 4+ wheeled vehicle up to van and SUV size (yeah, more Americanisms). Pickup trucks and larger are "trucks".

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Don't get me started on how infuriating Google's ReCaptchas are on Tor Browser. Buster captcha solver fails immediately. And when you do actually manually solve the captcha correctly, sometimes Google still thinks you're a robot. And sometimes it asks me to select all "bicycles" in the images and there are NO GODDAMN BICYCLES in any of the images whatsover. So I hit Skip and eventually google thinks I'm a robot. Ever…

Don't get me started on hCaptcha! I've spent good 5 minutes yesterday trying to guess what the 'boat' is and is not according to its moderators.

hCaptcha, for me, has such weird angles of objects, like a boat cropped to just the hull. Makes it super easy to pass over correct answers.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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But Google CAPTCHA has been asking the same questions now pretty much since its inception. Are we really still training it? Or is it just running on auto-pilot at this point? I'm guessing it's likely the latter.

I'm old enough to remember when reCAPTCHA was first introduced to help with deciphering text from OCR'd books. At that time, it didn't feel so bad answering those, as we were using our intelligence to genuinely help preserve our cultural history. It then switched to being numbers on buildings and street signs, and it immediately felt worse - we were now doing a job for Google, and an annoying one. Mechanical Turk fro…

>>I'm old enough to remember when reCAPTCHA was first introduced to help with deciphering text from OCR'd books

Am I the only one who always, on purpose, put in the wrong answer for the clearly scanned word? For me it was kind of a rebelion for being used this way, but it was always super easy to tell which word is generated and which one is scanned - and the algorithm only required the generated word to be correct, so I always put in absolute nonsense for the scanned word to break their OCR detection.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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As another poster pointed out, elsewhere "postal code" is usually used. The format differs. In some places it might be 4121, somewhere else it might be SW1A 1AA. In the ROI, there are no post codes.

There are now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_addresses_in_the_Republ...

Driven primarily by frustration with foreign companies expecting post codes - the postal service was late to computerising which paid off in having better OCR/address lookup when they finally did so actually said they were pretty indifferent to the implementation of postcodes.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

#175

To add some balance, they should include "identify all the roundabouts" so that folk from the USA are equally disadvantaged.

“Identify free healthcare”

"Identify the best spot in the classroom to hide from the shooter"

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

#176
I understand the purpose of CAPTCHAs when used as a security measure, but recently it seems like there has been a huge proliferation of them in all sorts of random places and it’s becoming very annoying.

Even Google has taken to occasionally popping up CAPTCHAs just so I can see search results! (“suspicious activity on your network” - I’m using a reputable, top-tier UK mobile provider)

Is there grounds to legally challenge CAPTCHAs on the basis that they’re discriminatory? They must be a nightmare for those using assistive technologies, or who have forms of cognitive impairment.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Let Googles AI solve Googles CAPTCHAs for you! "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans" is one of my top 3 browser extensions.

So we have "Buster: Captcha Solver for Humans", "uBlock Origin" and what is the last one?

That is some ingenious bait for HN readers! Of course everyone is going to passionately defend their favourite.

(Mine is, of course, tree style tabs - I could never manage without it.)

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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post #171

I'm not American and I often see captchas that ask about "cars" or "trucks". And they use similar images. I sometimes don't pass through those. My question is, when I see a truck and I'm being asked to select all cars, should I select the truck or not? For me a truck is a car. Is it not one?

Google it, heh. The way I learned it, a "car" is any roofed 4+ wheeled vehicle up to van and SUV size (yeah, more Americanisms). Pickup trucks and larger are "trucks".

Is the Reliant Robin not a car then?

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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And in India, they are commonly refereed to as "Zebra Crossing". No one refers to them as cross-walks and most have no idea about that term.

Same in the UK and most commonwealth countries I think

In Australia zebra crossings are a type of pedestrian crossing where pedestrians always have right of way.

Re: CAPTCHAs don’t prove you’re human – they prove you’re American (2017)

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Google's CAPTCHA is a cancer of the internet. We're all training their AI without any renumeration. I genuinely hope that some government figures out how to sue them. I've sat down for minutes, repeating CAPTCHAs over and over again, just to log in to an account or download something.

But Google CAPTCHA has been asking the same questions now pretty much since its inception. Are we really still training it? Or is it just running on auto-pilot at this point? I'm guessing it's likely the latter.

I've been picking out pictures of fire hydrants and stoplights for five years now with no end in sight.

Sometimes literally. They'll show me series of fire hydrants that don't end after several minutes, and I just give up.

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