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Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by s1artibartfast »

cowboysauce wrote: post #373
s1artibartfast wrote: post #334

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Simply put, I think it is cool and would like to to stick around. For what it is worth, here are a few points to consider. There already is art Throughout the wilderness and I think it is great. Sometimes the art is as simple as a statue or plaque commemorating a historic location, other times it is DIY art like this. The point of national parks isn’t to preserve wilderness for the sake of preservation. The point is…

> The point of national parks isn’t to preserve wilderness for the sake of preservation. The point is recreation. The national parks service philosophy is very preservationist. They advise people to follow guidelines that are literally called “leave no trace”. Their mission statement uses the word preserve in the first sentence. Hell, part of the reason why Big Bend national park never became an international park (a…

I agree that the NapS is ver preservationist, compared to the blm, where the monolith is located. For what it is worth 66/75 of national parks permit hunting.

https://www.doi.gov/blog/hunting-and-fishing-national-parks-...

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by bennettfeely »

Loughla wrote: post #235
effingwewt wrote: post #231

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Internet Historian did a wonderful series of videos about this. The investigative abilities of some people is just awe inspiring. https://youtu.be/_p4h3jwJob0

The phrase "weaponized autism" used to be a thing on 4chan when I cruised that back in the day. It honestly opened my eyes to a severely under-tapped resource in the job market. Individuals with autism tend to be able to focus on tasks more, and tend to see things in a way that lets them analyze systems and logical steps phenomenally well. In the social-sciences fields, they tend to be overlooked, because of either t…

60 Minutes had a segment on this exact topic of employment for people with autism and their talents

https://youtu.be/YnAUy4BM0w8

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by raihansaputra »

dredmorbius wrote: post #237
lultimouomo wrote: post #61

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This guy really is something: > I looked at rock type (Sandstone), color (red and white - no black streaks like found on higher cliffs in Utah), shape (more rounded indicating a more exposed area and erosion), the texture of the canyon floor (flat rock vs sloped indicating higher up in a watershed with infrequent water), and the larger cliff/mesa in the upper background of one of the photos. I took all that and lined…

44 bits. It's relatively well known that 33 distinct bits is enough to uniquely identify any individual person now alive on Earth.[1] Geospatially, assuming 10m resolution, 44 bits is enough to identify any unique location on Earth's land surface (46 bits buys you the oceans). Searching for a ~1m^2 monolith visually within a 10m^2 square is reasonable. GNU units: You have: ln((.3 * 4 * (earthradius^2) * pi)/10m^2)/ln…

64 bits definitely buys https://s2geometry.io/resources/s2cell_statistics.html

https://s2geometry.io/devguide/s2cell_hierarchy

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by colechristensen »

bgravinz wrote: post #173
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #133

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On the other hand, it was people like this that once fingered the wrong person for the Boston Marathon bombing. It's all well and good as long as we remember not to put too much stock in it when it really matters.

Once an entire government worth of people led the US into war that cost millions of lives over fake reports of nukes. It would be interesting to compare the damage caused by open, crowd-sourced investigative efforts against the damage caused of closed "authoritative" investigative efforts.

It wasn’t over fake reports of nukes. The weapons reports were how it was justified for a while, it is quite doubtful that the war calculus relied on this for decision makers in any way more than as a coin to sell the war to the people.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by s1artibartfast »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #366
s1artibartfast wrote: post #361

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It’s not a natural location for animals. It is federally managed land for camping, hunting, and 4 wheeling. Inexperienced people die venturing into nature all the time. The solution is to warn and educate people, not discourage them from enjoying the outdoors.

Its a big place, and only a few busy Rangers. I imagine folks can just drive in unnoticed. And die of exhaustion or dehydration once they've had a breakdown, lost their way, run out of gas or whatever. Where in that process do we have an opportunity for education? Other than the Darwin sort.

This is true of any wilderness. We should put a warning poster at the obvious trailheads and let the rest of the idiots die.

A more aggressive strategy might involve teaching children in schools not to walk out into the desert without water, or into the ocean if you can’t swim

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by nobrains »

lultimouomo wrote: post #61
MrSourz wrote: post #41

A reddit user [1] found its location [2] and another figured out it was installed sometime during 2015-2016 based on when the satellite imagery changed. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/k01dc3/mysterious_m... [2] https://goo.gl/maps/2xdrTqcnguX3ky8AA

This guy really is something: > I looked at rock type (Sandstone), color (red and white - no black streaks like found on higher cliffs in Utah), shape (more rounded indicating a more exposed area and erosion), the texture of the canyon floor (flat rock vs sloped indicating higher up in a watershed with infrequent water), and the larger cliff/mesa in the upper background of one of the photos. I took all that and lined…

Then, incase you have not seen this, you will be amazed by it: https://youtu.be/3s54_MF2XPk (reconstitution of the Beirut blast).

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Post by herewulf »

hanche wrote: post #454
alliao wrote: post #378

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I feel you. As New Zealander watching lord of the rings with local soap opera actors appearing randomly really break whatever immersion you tried to build up...

Sometimes, this happens to me just because the same actor pops up in two films. I can never quite get over Lord Elrond being Mr. Smith from the Matrix, for example. Perhaps because the acting in the two roles seems so similar to me. I don’t watch movies very much. People who do, must have this happening to them all the time .

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson."

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by m463 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #133
wpasc wrote: post #77

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You have to love the internet sometimes. Someone who works construction (as he stated) can develop a fun investigatory hobby just via the internet. The he can sign his work with a silly name like bear__f##ker (which I'm guessing is a reference to the movie super troopers).

On the other hand, it was people like this that once fingered the wrong person for the Boston Marathon bombing. It's all well and good as long as we remember not to put too much stock in it when it really matters.

Right, what if it was accepted as fact, but turns out the monolith was there for millennia and was only recently uncovered by a sandstorm?

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Post by scottlocklin »

ABeeSea wrote: post #320
matthewdgreen wrote: post #214

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I think it’s amusing that the takeaway from this episode is “the intelligence agencies screwed up” and not “the intelligence agencies found no evidence, and then were directly pressured by their political masters to construct evidence to justify a desired military outcome.”

It wasn’t even a real intelligent agency that drummed up support for war. It was a temporary agency created by Rumsfelds and Cheney with the Orwellian name of “Office of Special Plans.” They deliberately lied and misused raw intelligence signals to force us to war. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans

There's some CIA disinfo right there. Rumsfeld and the neocon claque certainly ginned it up. The spooks though, said it would be a "slam dunk" that there would be WMD in Iraq. Here's Tenet grousing he was quoted:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cia-slamdunk-idUSN264...

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