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Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

stirlo wrote: post #395
skissane wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93East_Timor_s... Australia and East Timor negotiated a treaty to divide up oil and gas in the sea between the two countries. Australia bugged the East Timorese government offices to get an unfair advantage in the negotiations. The East Timorese government found about this, and then sued Australia in the Permanent Court of Arbitration to have the treaty invalidated. An Au…

I'm sorry but whats wrong with this? It's exactly the job of the Australian intelligence agencies to protect for the countries interests and gain advantages where they can. This case is even more reasonable as it's a country spying on a country so both parties have the opportunity do so. The NSA has directly spied on corporations (Airbus) and passed the information to their own corporations (Boeing) in the past which…

There's obviously something fairly deeply wrong with it, or wrong with it being known by the Australian public, given the government's efforts at suppressing it.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by GlennS »

stirlo wrote: post #395
skissane wrote: post #280

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia%E2%80%93East_Timor_s... Australia and East Timor negotiated a treaty to divide up oil and gas in the sea between the two countries. Australia bugged the East Timorese government offices to get an unfair advantage in the negotiations. The East Timorese government found about this, and then sued Australia in the Permanent Court of Arbitration to have the treaty invalidated. An Au…

I'm sorry but whats wrong with this? It's exactly the job of the Australian intelligence agencies to protect for the countries interests and gain advantages where they can. This case is even more reasonable as it's a country spying on a country so both parties have the opportunity do so. The NSA has directly spied on corporations (Airbus) and passed the information to their own corporations (Boeing) in the past which…

There is no way East Timor has an equivalent opportunity to spy on Australia.

Australia needs these island states to stay friendly for national security reasons.

It shouldn't be taking advantage of their small and relatively unsophisticated governments to make a quick buck.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by EGreg »

matthewdgreen wrote: post #214
bgravinz wrote: post #173

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Once an entire government worth of people led the US into war that cost millions of lives over fake reports of nukes. It would be interesting to compare the damage caused by open, crowd-sourced investigative efforts against the damage caused of closed "authoritative" investigative efforts.

I think it’s amusing that the takeaway from this episode is “the intelligence agencies screwed up” and not “the intelligence agencies found no evidence, and then were directly pressured by their political masters to construct evidence to justify a desired military outcome.”

The thing is that we are always told there is evidence, like for sure, trust us:

Assad bombed his own people

The Russians hacked the election (a very broad statement, like “let’s believe in evolution”)

North Korea hacked SONY

All at very convenient times for our moves abroad and totally nonsensical from the point of view of motivation of the ones doing it (like Assad)

It’s like they don’t even try anymore. They just say “17 intelligence agencies all concur” with each other.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by look_lookatme »

FR10 wrote: post #88

It reminds me of Stonehenge. I understand that some people may consider this could set a bad precedent but if its not harming the ecosystem in any way why shouldnt it be allowed to stay up? To me this would be like erasing the paintings we made 5000 years ago.

Because ghoulish influencers are already swarming it and publishing to Instagram or whatever looking for likes. Nothing good comes of that.

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Post by djur »

robotnikman wrote: post #387
Loughla wrote: post #235

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The phrase "weaponized autism" used to be a thing on 4chan when I cruised that back in the day. It honestly opened my eyes to a severely under-tapped resource in the job market. Individuals with autism tend to be able to focus on tasks more, and tend to see things in a way that lets them analyze systems and logical steps phenomenally well. In the social-sciences fields, they tend to be overlooked, because of either t…

I love the phrase "weaponized autism" as well, speaking as someone on the spectrum. A previous manager of mine once told me I am great with coming up with unique solutions to problems. Like you said too, some of these people lack good interpersonal abilities. I know a friend who is also on the spectrum and is one of the smartest people I know, and excellent when it comes to math. However his lack of interpersonal and…

Just a heads up that that phrase has been heavily adopted by the QAnon conspiracy community, and using it without context might give the wrong impression.

Re: Metal monolith found by helicopter crew in Utah desert

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Post by Widdershin »

ficklepickle wrote: post #262
Loughla wrote: post #235

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The phrase "weaponized autism" used to be a thing on 4chan when I cruised that back in the day. It honestly opened my eyes to a severely under-tapped resource in the job market. Individuals with autism tend to be able to focus on tasks more, and tend to see things in a way that lets them analyze systems and logical steps phenomenally well. In the social-sciences fields, they tend to be overlooked, because of either t…

As someone on the spectrum, I approve this message. I wish society was a meritocracy.

Just a heads up the term meritocracy was actually coined to describe an impossibility, since all judgement of worth in society is subjective.

Even if you pick an objective metric, it was decided upon subjectively and with bias.

I can appreciate wanting society to be more egalitarian, but perhaps you’re in search of another word.

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