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YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by oarsinsync »

0-_-0 wrote: post #51
Retric wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I find more concerning is many people will have uploaded videos with the understanding people could just watch them for free and then died. At which point YouTube is essentially monetizing dead people without paying their estates. Are people going to need to stipulate in their will to delete all uploaded content to stop crap like this?

Should the products of dead people not be monetizable? How about selling a Van Gogh painting?

For better or for worse, dead people (or rather, their estates) can still have copyright ownership of works they've produced.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by blackoil »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #47

There's already several articles about Google on the front page. I'm curious why they would be making moves to avoid an anti-trust lawsuit on the one hand with its scaling back of using AMP; while on the other hand, they seem to be actively using their monopoly with YT to generate ad revenue by forcing it on the content creators. This puts a lot of people in a bad situation. There's no real recourse because the platf…

Both are different cases. Monopoly (dominant position) isn't bad abusing monopoly in one segment to gain market in another is. So AMP is bad, as they are abusing monopoly in search/news to enter hosting/content platform business. Youtube monetization is not independent of Youtube, so they are free to build upon it.

Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them

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Post by lxgr »

Ads on YouTube have become annoying enough to make me hesitate before following a link to the site.

I really wonder how much further they can push this without either driving users to using ad blockers or creators to upload to other platforms.

Unfortunately, I suspect the answer is "pretty long"...

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Post by falcolas »

gtirloni wrote: post #78

Why not pay for Youtube Premium? We're often talking about how we would gladly pay to keep a sustainable product going on but people are outraged that a _free_ service is increasing monetization through ads. I think Youtube is great, it's where I find a lot of content, I use it a lot and not seeing ads makes a huge difference. Plus, Youtube Music is great value for the price.

As a YouTube Premium subscriber - I still think this move is janky as hell. If my views weren’t worth more to the channels I care about (last I heard, a “red” subscriber is worth an order of magnitude or more than ad view), I’d be out of there out of a sheer distaste for Google’s actions.

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Post by everdrive »

bsharitt wrote: post #61

I get why people are mad that something that exists is changing, though at this point I've stopped being surprised when something that was free either stops being free or has the free offering diminished. This particularly was a very weird setup where if you didn't want a share of ad revenue, you got to use the service completely for free. While Google offers ad free YouTube to users, it'd be nice if they offered a w…

Yep. You don't own Youtube, and you don't really have much control over content you wish to upload, or content you wish the view. And, this content can be removed or modified (by inserting ads) at any time.

I think services are generally bad for consumers. (they can be quite good for businesses, though) If a consumer relies on a service, then they are beholden to any change made in that service. In other words, it's fine to enjoy Youtube, but just know that your enjoyment could be temporary, videos could be lost, and you could be shut out from the service.

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Post by Verdex »

I hope they let creators decide where the ads go. Because otherwise, this is going to destroy ASMR videos. I can see it now. Person with insomnia listening to someone softly picking a mic with a q-tip about to drift off when all of a sudden HI LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT CAR INSURANCE.

From looking casually into the community, those channels have a lot of videos with millions and sometimes tens of millions of views. All of that is going to potentially migrate to somewhere else.

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Post by solarkraft »

randlet wrote: post #72
secondcoming wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how long YT will tolerate those in-video ads when YT Premium is supposed to allow for an ad-free experience. I'm also curious as to how the advertisers and YT channels come up with pricing. The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over, and maybe it's a coincidence, but the channels seem to keep the in-video ad lengths to integer multiples of 'skip 10 seconds' button presses.

"The advertisers will have no metrics on how often the ad was skipped over" Lots of the advertisements ask you to visit a custom URL or use a discount code which the advertisers can use as lower bound on how effective an advertisement is.

You can argue the custom code is enough, but you're still missing out on a lot of metrics, most importantly when the decision was made (in which part of which video).
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