I get why people are mad that something that exists is changing, though at this point I've stopped being surprised when something that was free either stops being free or has the free offering diminished. This particularly was a very weird setup where if you didn't want a share of ad revenue, you got to use the service completely for free. While Google offers ad free YouTube to users, it'd be nice if they offered a way for creators to pay for YouTube hosting so they can continue to offer their channels ad free, with maybe a small discount based on the percentage of your user base with YouTube Premium.
YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
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Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
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Examples? Happy to be proven wrong on this.
For longer videos, YouTube tends to put not just an ad or two at the beginning, but also in the middle of the video. It can be pretty jarring to be listening to a quiet video, and then 10 minutes in, an obnoxiously loud ad starts playing. No idea if the creators opt in to this “feature” (I bet they don’t; it’s probably either all or nothing with ads), but it definitely exists.
Worse though that on June (or was it July? Regardless, this year) most YPP members' videos were explicitly opted-in again on mid-roll ads despite some of them explicitly turning it off already.
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Gmail It's the one service easily replaced. If they go this route the internet will be a more decentralized place
Easy? Good luck replacing all your accounts and contacts using your @gmail.com email. You'll move to another provider but you'll need to keep the old GMail one around for a long time before you're safe deleting it.
People you actually want to speak with will learn very quickly when their messages don’t get through. Sure, keep your gmail alive whilst you transition yourself, but don’t leave it hanging around too long. The inertia will kill you.
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#64I know there are several content creators (such as Jim Sterling) that have their videos ad-free as a perk for their supporters (since he's supported enough via Patreon). He's pretty angry about this change. I somewhat understand Google's stance on this, as it's a service that should be allowed to make money even on people who don't want to make money. They don't really have such a way to opt out of pretty much any ot…
> it's kind of a shitty move by Google. It's kind of business as usual for Google. Why would anyone expect them to be kind and generous suddenly when they have consistently for years pulled the rug out underneath previosly-free services. (or killed them off completely https://killedbygoogle.com/ ) gmail subscriptions are next, just wait and see.
Nah, gmail users are not absolutely next in line. That was hangouts users.
But you do have the right idea. Gmail users are in line, waiting for the spyware to no longer have a free-to-use option. And even after becoming customers, they'll still be the product.
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#65> Yes, the new Terms of Service allow ads to run on videos from non-YPP channels (so long as the video meets ad-friendly guidelines).
So now all these smaller creators will just start their video with "hey cunts, how you doing today?"
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#66YouTube already does ads on every page right? The ones in the top right corner of the watch page for example. I think this is now referring to in-video ads.
Yes this is referring to in-video ads.
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Gmail It's the one service easily replaced. If they go this route the internet will be a more decentralized place
Easy? Good luck replacing all your accounts and contacts using your @gmail.com email. You'll move to another provider but you'll need to keep the old GMail one around for a long time before you're safe deleting it.
Sure, you just set up forwarding (oh look, forwarding just became a paid feature in Gmail!) and then respond from your new email, and over time it will fix itself and you won't lose emails..
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#68Hacker News User Will Continue to Run uBlock Origin on All Sites Including YouTube Even If Webmasters Don't Want Him To
I think technically it would be pretty easy for google to embed ads into videos in a way that would be hard to impossible to block.
It would be hard to work around this https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#69After having tried Youtube Premium to remove ads, it's almost jarring to see ads in a Youtube video.
YT seems to be increasingly prioritizing being ad delivery network over being a content delivery network.
Re: YouTube will now show ads on all videos even if creators don’t want them
#70“You Know What, Evil Is Actually OK” — Google, 2020.