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Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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> I just had pasta with gorgonzola cheese Well, some cheeses have (little to) no lactose, so maybe that's a consideration? "In the case of Gorgonzola DOP, lactic bacteria consume lactose during the fermentation that occurs along the cheese-making process." https://en.gorgonzola.com/the-science-column/gorgonzola-chee... "For some people who have determined they are only lactose intolerant, cheese can be eaten. This is…

>> "In the case of Gorgonzola DOP, lactic bacteria consume lactose during the fermentation that occurs along the cheese-making process." While lactic acid bacteria (LAB) indeed consume the lactose in cheese curds, not all of the lactose is consumed, especially so in fresh cheeses (like gorgonzola, mozzarella, feta, mascarpone, roquefort, camembert, brie, etc. etc.). Even hard cheeses may have a significant amount of…

Where can I learn more about cheese, what it tastes like, how it's made and what it contains?

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I do not buy the conclusions in this video. For a couple of reasons. First off, anecdote. I myself am severely lactose intolerant, which I inherited genetically. I have lived in Italy and know Italians pretty well, and in my experience lactose intolerance is so unusual in Italy that people are often amazed to hear of my condition. Lactase (Lactaid etc.) is quite rare in the country, so much so that I usually bring in…

I'm Italian and yes most Italians don't know what lactose intollerance is but when I went vegan (for the animals) I suggested veg milk to people and you will be surprised by how many of them felt better, they didn't know they are lactose intollerant and many of them didn't even realized they had a problem. Who could imagine a headache can be caused by milk?

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I'd feel silly casually watching fun Youtube videos at any office job where anybody could see my screen. So, most jobs I've had until I worked remotely. Browsing websites like HN is one thing. Youtube is over the top, like turning on Netflix. "Oh look, Chuck is watching Youtube again."

I'd feel silly working at any office job where I couldn't casually watch a brief YouTube video or share one ith a colleague. I've only worked at one, (now mostly remote, pre-ncov) maybe I was spoilt, but, perhaps as a result, I wouldn't want to feel that I couldn't. I'm not operating factory machinery.

I worked in an open bureau back in 2001. One guy would watch a funny video and the whole bureau would go to his computer to watch it. I found that very annoying, I'm here to work and solve (hard) problems, not watch videos. Because I was unemployed for a long time before that and was happy to work and do something productive. Instead..they watch videos. I also can't stand inner company politics. If I never have to talk to my colleagues it's the best. When I joined that company there was one guy who said, "we're all freaks here, what kind of freak are you". I never saw myself as a freak. The company imploded in the new economy bubble because management thought that spending 250k on Reamon (the singer) was a good investment. Then they didn't have enough money to pay their developers that were by 9/10 from Russia or Romania, imported. We sued and never saw our money. The product was sold to T-Online (Deutsche Telekom) as the TOM (T-Online Messenger) and the CEO fled to Switzerland with the money he made from the sale. We didn't see 1 cent. What's also interesting, on paper the chiefs like the CTO and the head recruiter earned 20fold of what the code monkeys earned. It was also a family business and they called themself a company that was noted on the stock exchange but in reality wasn't registered there. The brother of a, at that time prominent TV moderator was an investor in that company.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I do not buy the conclusions in this video. For a couple of reasons. First off, anecdote. I myself am severely lactose intolerant, which I inherited genetically. I have lived in Italy and know Italians pretty well, and in my experience lactose intolerance is so unusual in Italy that people are often amazed to hear of my condition. Lactase (Lactaid etc.) is quite rare in the country, so much so that I usually bring in…

I'm Italian and yes most Italians don't know what lactose intollerance is but when I went vegan (for the animals) I suggested veg milk to people and you will be surprised by how many of them felt better, they didn't know they are lactose intollerant and many of them didn't even realized they had a problem. Who could imagine a headache can be caused by milk?

It's completely legitimate to go vegan for animal rights reasons. But lactose intolerance does not, and cannot, cause headaches. It is a specific disorder affecting the lower intestine and causes diarrhea and gas pain. I am afraid that your posting may be describing some other disorder (or it may be effectively another example of colpo d'aria).

*Edit: for those of you who don't know, colpo d'aria is a made-up disease used by Italian mothers to explain why their kids have to be bundled up ridiculously in order to go out in the cold: the closest term in English would be "catching your death". Italians are extraordinarily superstitious and hyperchondriacal about diseases and disorders. Frauds run rampant and homeopathy is openly advertised in drug stores as if it's real.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I do not buy the conclusions in this video. For a couple of reasons. First off, anecdote. I myself am severely lactose intolerant, which I inherited genetically. I have lived in Italy and know Italians pretty well, and in my experience lactose intolerance is so unusual in Italy that people are often amazed to hear of my condition. Lactase (Lactaid etc.) is quite rare in the country, so much so that I usually bring in…

I’m gonna drop my $.02 in here because I am SEVERELY lactose intolerant and would like to discuss with someone else who is lactose intolerant. (This comment is unrelated to the video) I usually use 2-4 lactaid capsules when eating dairy and sometimes 8 when it’s some super cheesy pizza or something. I live in the United States. I visited Italy last year, and I ate a lot of ice cream, cheesy pastas, and pizzas without…

This is enlightening. I didn't know you could take more than 2 lactaid capsules to increase effectiveness. I am also severely lactose intolerant and never took more than two assuming that they each pill was so packed full of lactase that it wouldn't help. This has resulted in me basically never eating dairy because 1 pill rarely helps.

But as to your question, from what I understand, preparation can have a great effect on amount of lactose so the traditional Italian methods likely prepare cheeses in a way that reduces lactose.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I'm Italian (now in the US), and I had some friends come visit in Italy a while ago, and went out to lunch with some of my family. One of my friends ordered a cappuccino mid-lunch and my family almost passed out :)

I spent some time in Sicily and one of the things I discovered was I could not get pizza for lunch,only dinner. I thought it was just one restaurant being obstinate but town after it was the same response. And to this American who enjoyed a slice between classes I could not understand why. I concluded it was too hot and no one wanted to turn up the pizza oven. Is that correct assumption?

You should get pizzas at pizza al taglio places, not restaurants, in the afternoon! :)

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I’m gonna drop my $.02 in here because I am SEVERELY lactose intolerant and would like to discuss with someone else who is lactose intolerant. (This comment is unrelated to the video) I usually use 2-4 lactaid capsules when eating dairy and sometimes 8 when it’s some super cheesy pizza or something. I live in the United States. I visited Italy last year, and I ate a lot of ice cream, cheesy pastas, and pizzas without…

This is enlightening. I didn't know you could take more than 2 lactaid capsules to increase effectiveness. I am also severely lactose intolerant and never took more than two assuming that they each pill was so packed full of lactase that it wouldn't help. This has resulted in me basically never eating dairy because 1 pill rarely helps. But as to your question, from what I understand, preparation can have a great effe…

Italian methods for cheesemaking are nearly identical to US methods (including, in most cases, pasteurization). I can't think of any cheese preparation differences that would have the slightest effect on lactose. It is the case that Italians eat more sheep milk cheese (pecorino) than Americans, and sheep milk has a bit less lactose. And Italians also eat more aged cheeses. But I don't think this is nearly enough to explain any differences you may have seen.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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What is the rage about VPNs lately? Is there an emerging security/surveillance threat that we were not aware of or even one that a VPN could stop unlike FB/Google data hoarding?

I guess most people use it for getting access to content restricted for different region in video streaming services. When you consider person that regularly watches Youtube they might be interested.

Do you have an example of such a video?

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Restaurant owner in Italy here: We usually don’t offer pizza at lunchtime because it takes time and wood to fire up the oven and keep it at temperature. Low request volume means it’s not worth it, at least for small pizza places. If you want pizza for lunch you head to a bakery or “bar” and they have squares (not “slices”) ready for you to pick up.

sorry for asking so bluntly, how did you discover HN ? I'm amazed by the diversity of this population

Technically it’s a family business that I grew up into and I ended up being a developer because at 14 I made the restaurant’s website with Macromedia Fireworks and Dreamweaver.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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> I just had pasta with gorgonzola cheese Well, some cheeses have (little to) no lactose, so maybe that's a consideration? "In the case of Gorgonzola DOP, lactic bacteria consume lactose during the fermentation that occurs along the cheese-making process." https://en.gorgonzola.com/the-science-column/gorgonzola-chee... "For some people who have determined they are only lactose intolerant, cheese can be eaten. This is…

>> "In the case of Gorgonzola DOP, lactic bacteria consume lactose during the fermentation that occurs along the cheese-making process." While lactic acid bacteria (LAB) indeed consume the lactose in cheese curds, not all of the lactose is consumed, especially so in fresh cheeses (like gorgonzola, mozzarella, feta, mascarpone, roquefort, camembert, brie, etc. etc.). Even hard cheeses may have a significant amount of…

Thanks cheese_goddess, I hope you get to use this account for future cheese-related discussion on HN. :)
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