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Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I'd feel silly casually watching fun Youtube videos at any office job where anybody could see my screen. So, most jobs I've had until I worked remotely. Browsing websites like HN is one thing. Youtube is over the top, like turning on Netflix. "Oh look, Chuck is watching Youtube again."

I'd feel silly working at any office job where I couldn't casually watch a brief YouTube video or share one ith a colleague. I've only worked at one, (now mostly remote, pre-ncov) maybe I was spoilt, but, perhaps as a result, I wouldn't want to feel that I couldn't. I'm not operating factory machinery.

It's all about perception, sadly. Plenty of people who will judge you and gossip about you for what they deem to be slacking. (Often while they're having a "quick" cigarette break, just for the irony).

It's not ideal, but it's human nature, and I don't think any company, no matter how good their culture, can remove it.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I do not buy the conclusions in this video.

For a couple of reasons. First off, anecdote. I myself am severely lactose intolerant, which I inherited genetically. I have lived in Italy and know Italians pretty well, and in my experience lactose intolerance is so unusual in Italy that people are often amazed to hear of my condition. Lactase (Lactaid etc.) is quite rare in the country, so much so that I usually bring in large quantities when I fly there. Granted, my experience is largely in the north, but I have also lived for quite some time in Rome.

Italians eat a fair bit of high-lactose foods (cream; cappucino, young and soft cheeses, mmmm, squaquerone; certain pasta dishes; and of course gelato) and I have never seen a complaint, while I myself have to be careful around all of them.

But second, as far as I understand it, the claim that Italians are lactose intolerant is not supported by current evidence. Studies in the 1980s in support of the hypothesis were largely based on self-diagnosis, which anyone who knows Italians ("Colpo D'aria") realizes is fraught with problems. It is my understanding that later and much better studies have suggested that lactose intolerance in Italy is far lower than suggested 40 years ago.

http://italianthro.blogspot.com/2016/12/italians-arent-lacto...

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I’m lactose intolerant and have no issue with cheese and gelato in Italy. Most Italian cheeses have little to no lactose. Not sure what the case is with gelato but it doesn’t seem to have an effect on me (this is anecdotal). Also pizza in Italy does not have as much cheese as in other parts of the world.

Cheese is low in lactose, and gelato is too, it's mainly sugar with only a little bit of milk. Someone I know, who is lactose intolerant, believes that frozen milk isn't as bad, I've not found any scientific evidence of this, so it's probably not true, but she thinks she is more tolerant of frozen milk products, so maybe there is some reason?

There is also not that much milk in a serving of ice cream since it is usually less than the 1:1 with amount of cream, typically 2:1 cream to milk, plus sugar, stabilizers, flavorings. A milkshake would be much more milk though I’d think.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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post #90

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I’m lactose intolerant and have no issue with cheese and gelato in Italy. Most Italian cheeses have little to no lactose. Not sure what the case is with gelato but it doesn’t seem to have an effect on me (this is anecdotal). Also pizza in Italy does not have as much cheese as in other parts of the world.

Cheese is low in lactose, and gelato is too, it's mainly sugar with only a little bit of milk. Someone I know, who is lactose intolerant, believes that frozen milk isn't as bad, I've not found any scientific evidence of this, so it's probably not true, but she thinks she is more tolerant of frozen milk products, so maybe there is some reason?

I have some kind of dairy intolerance, and I find that cooked and cultured dairy doesn't bother me nearly as much as milk or ice cream.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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20% of the video is an ad for a VPN. The remaining 80% could be summarized in 2-3 sentences. Do we really need a video?

What is the rage about VPNs lately? Is there an emerging security/surveillance threat that we were not aware of or even one that a VPN could stop unlike FB/Google data hoarding?

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I'm Italian (now in the US), and I had some friends come visit in Italy a while ago, and went out to lunch with some of my family. One of my friends ordered a cappuccino mid-lunch and my family almost passed out :)

It’s hilarious how people are so ingrained in their culture that these things affect them so much. Like if I ate a roast dinner for breakfast or took a shower every lunch time, I’d be considered a madman. It sounds absolutely silly but really there’s few good reasons for most of our habits.

With my Anglo/American breakfast habits I was kind of shocked that traditional Japanese breakfast includes a full range of fish, rice, soup, salad and more or less anything else normally eaten. I probably feel as strongly about breakfast being mild or sweet flavors as Italians do for cappuccino after 11 and for no better reason.

Re: Why Italians don't drink a cappuccino after 11am [video]

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I've worked as a barista in the US and I've never heard of using different milk for cappuccinos vs. lattes -- instead, I've always just imbued more air into my cappuccino froth than when I make latte froth. Is it especially common for Italian coffee shops to use different milk for each, or am I just misunderstanding your comment? On the (admittedly off topic) note of you getting downvotes: I suspect some of it probab…

It used to be very common, but not anymore (I guess one of the reasons is that it also costs a bit more and many - like me - are discovering to be mildly or moderately lactose intolerant). In some places they care more than others, but you can make a perfect cappuccino with simple whole milk. My problem with English is twofold, I'm not the best at it and I find writing from the smartphone painful, even in Italian. I'…

Nothing wrong with your English mate and nothing with a little Italian “flavour” in anything you’ve written, IMHO as an Englishman.

English is such a mixed up language but you can mangle it up in loads of different ways and it’ll still come out fine.

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