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Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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I lost my father recently and this has been the toughest period in my life. I grew up in India in a middle-class family and my father always went through unimaginable hardships just so that he can buy us chocolates and pay our tuition. He was still young at 65 and there was so much that I wanted to see and share with him. Realizing that this is not ever going to happen itself kills me from the inside. I'm doing okay…

I'm really sorry to hear about your father.

My mom passed away in this pandemic too, and I don't know how the death of a parent is supposed to work, but it feels like it's impossible to offer them as much as they deserve. It's an odd sort of robbery of possibility :(

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

#462

no, but optimism is dwindling by the day. quit my job in 2018 as I was totally burnt out. figured id take a couple months off and get back to it. spent all of 2019 job hunting with no success. took my last interview in January 2020 which was also a dead end. beaten up and making zero money for all that time takes quite a toll. wife and i had our first child in march. have been a babysitter since then more or less. ha…

taking care of a small child is exhausting . the way our culture says a person can do that full time and also work full time is completely unrealistic. But the shape of it changes over time - you’re what, nine months in? that’s still the hard time. Over the next few months, it will get easier, little by little. The kind of attention that a child needs changes, and while it continues to be intense, I find having a 2-y…

thanks for the reply - its nice to hear some perspective. yes I have a much better appreciation for full time childcare and the associated stresses now. i absolutely want to be the best parent i can; for now i guess that manifests itself in direct time and attention. its just hard to come to terms with not being able to enjoy intellectual pursuits, projects, etc., not being able to feel like I'm contributing much to our situation and just not knowing when things will change. my wife has been great dealing with her side of things at the same time (and I probably don't say that enough tbh).

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #459

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Same here. I am extroverted (for a SWE) and bad at staying focused when nobody is around to peek at my screen. Work at a company where everything needs to be signed off, things need to always be clearly communicated, etc. so constantly having to context switch projects while I’m blocked on waiting for someone else to stop ignoring me. The one thing that makes me happy about my current job is fixing support tickets. B…

> bad at staying focused when nobody is around to peek at my screen omg yes. It's hard to communicate to people this need for coworking and co-presence. I've tried over the years to ask for always-on remote presence tools -- always-on video or audio. Some people seem to think of these as micromanage-y employer-driven tech, but it truly helps me stay motivated and reduces anxiety/depression. Like I don't want anyone's…

I had to take that test at a previous employer and I think I got either a 3 or 8. I'm definitely a people pleaser, but two of the main reasons I like doing support tickets are that I'm good at it and I feel bad when other engineers really half-ass it and the person on the other end gets no answer after ~weeks of waiting. It's shocking to me how little effort people put into it.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find that Reddit sucks the joy out of my day. There's just something about that site.

Carefully select subreddits and make sure to only use old.reddit.com It doesn't have all that 'engagement' crap of the newer version

This is sooo true. I realized that there are actually some subreddits that are well moderated, and toxic stuff is quickly removed.

I also made it a point to stop browsing Reddit at the first comment that is either posted by a troll or is off topic in a bad way.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

#465

I'm living in Iran. Here the situation is disaster. it gets worth when you grow up in religious family. I can not listen to any music, watching any movie or even worth I can not play any video games easily.. Economical situation here is disaster so I can not rent a new apartment and move in.. I forced to go to male-only school, male-only high-school and even now I study computer science at a male-only university. And…

https://clutch.co/ir/developers

I am curious, if you look at outsourcing to Iran, it seems that they charge 100$ per hour on average.

Are you a developer? At 100 per month, I can hire you for double that :D

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

#466

For me work has been very stressful, though I'm better off than most people, the pandemic did not affect me very much but I find work very toxic. I'm a very young software engineer at 23 in a country where most engineers you will find are 26 and above I got my first full time developer job when I was 19 fresh out of high school. Most people consider me as smart but I'm not given the opportunity to use my skills. In l…

Consider making it your philosophy to do without any & all credit and doing "the good deeds in stealth". The win-win is that probably credit will easily flow towards over time in surprising ways you when the need is gone, and even if it doesn't, the need was overcome.

Consider the way your manager tried to keep you "at all costs" (salary & even promising much more than he could really deliver!) a huge credit in disguise.

"The superior leader [...] is a catalyst, and though things would not get done well if he weren't there, when they succeed he takes no credit. And because he takes no credit, credit never leaves him."

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #286

I am not depressed now but I am doing the same things I do when I am depressed. I think the difference is compassion. - it takes me hours to get out of bed but that's ok, I have loads of time during lockdown. - I spend hours daily scrolling through HN and reddit but that's ok, it's good to switch off for a bit. - I can only productively work 1-2 hours per day but that's ok, most people I ask is doing the same and tha…

i think i’m in a very similar situation, thanks for putting it into words. i’m not doing great but it’s ok. it doesn’t feel good, but it doesn’t feel bad either

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

#468

Nowhere else to post this so here it goes. I lost my job in January. From January - March I started looking for a job and then COVID hits at the height of my search, now suddenly no one is hiring and all the businesses are slowing down. My girlfriend of 13 years left me the day after my birthday in June before I had a chance to propose to her, I had to return the ring, she had no idea and I never told her about it. I…

I'm really sorry for your situation, this year's been truly awful for me as well. Take solace on the fact that you're not the only one hurting.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #333

Consider non-institutionalized ideas: - music (including live music (streaming is fine)) - dance - talking with random people about mostly anything (dialup smartphone app) - rest - something else

Can add:

- read literature/fiction/prose more and less of the bottomless-eversamey noisy oceans of opinions/facts/nonfiction if "more joy, less hectic nervosity" is desired from one's reading times in life

- analog hobby classics like drawing or instruments (without online sharing for likes / follows / thumbs etc) allow self-paced slowly-but-ever-slightly-improving journeys of exploration, experimentation, expression in a meditative/contemplative restfully-quietly-alert-at-peace facilitating (with some care) prolonged times in absence of judgments (the own "inner tormenter" gives up soon enough, being impatient with everything and everyone and the self) / milestones / levels / ranks / career possibilities (aka worldly or abstract hopes/fears).

Both have in common: no instant gratifications but constant littler ones (if creative sudden ideas / surprises tickle you a bit each time they pop up out of seemingly nowhere) --- not gamified / skinner-boxed --- no social signalling or group dis/approval considerations drowning out your at-heart innermost spirit.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

#470
I have had severe depression for over a decade now, I am in my mid-twenties so since a bit before adolescence, roughly. Majority of my life. Been taking various medications for a decade. Nothing works. I don't really remember what it's like to not be depressed.

For those who do not have a point of reference for this disease, here's a semi-accurate description, or as short as I can fit in a few sentences: imagine telling yourself that you're an empty husk of a human being, or that you'll never be happy - et cetera, it's different for everyone - and imagine doing that every day or almost every day for a decade. It wears on you. Eventually you believe it.

There are a number of factors which make it hell and there are few options.

Everyone says they're willing to talk; I'm sure some or most of my friends/family are truthful, but a. it's impossible to know whether they're genuine about that beforehand, since it's a rather heavy discussion, and b. even if they're truthful and willing, I am scared more than anything of pushing friends away - having them consciously or subconsciously avoid me, even somewhat. I realized that being with my friends is the only thing which brings me joy in life, and probably ever has for the most part. I'm probably anhedonic. I've brushed with suicide but never attempted, but if I pushed my friends away I would probably do so.

Psychiatry exists and it is a good option. Unfortunately, unlike other disciplines in medicine where a course can be charted given enough information, there is practically never enough information to figure out the best course of treatment. The way we figure out which medication(s) work is by trial and error. I have a decade-long spreadsheet and nothing has worked, except for a mood stabilizer that does not actually help the depression, just prevents minute-to-minute swings. Most psychiatrists, or at least the ones I've tried except one, are not willing to be aggressive with drugs and dosages since that isn't necessary in most patients. It takes several weeks or even a couple of months to titrate a drug to a dosage high enough to prove it doesn't work. More aggressive drugs and dosages tend to have worse side effects and withdrawals, to make things even worse, but if you've tried all the first-line drugs then the available options become less mainstream and fewer psychiatrists will have the experience to deal with them.

Therapy works for some people, cognitive behavioral therapy works for some people. It doesn't work for me because I don't have the strength to put enough effort into it. It's heavily dependent on the therapist.

Finding psychiatrists and therapists is a crapshoot. The state of reviews and patient feedback is pitiful. Legitimately good professionals have a months-long waitlist and may be too expensive anyway. Who insurance covers is also a crapshoot.

If I'm in a particularly bad state, I can't tell anyone, not friends, family, doctors (especially internists and other non-subject matter experts), therapists, and so on because I don't want to be hospitalized. Involuntary hospitalization does the opposite of helping: best case I leave in a worse state than when I went in. Worst case I would leave actively suicidal since it disrupts your life heavily. I was hospitalized once because my family and I didn't know that it wouldn't help. It absolutely drove me insane, almost literally. Many physicians won't hesitate to pull that trigger for liability reasons (emphasis required for how fucked our system is) and its impossible to know who's trigger-happy. Friends and family don't know that it's hell. The suicide hotline is exists only to funnel suicidal people to involuntary hospitalization. That may be useful in many cases but it teaches you after one instance to never express these emotions, to lie to psychiatrists/therapists, to never call a helpline.

I'm stuck in this body, unable to express what I want or need, except perhaps on here, where there is even a slight change intelligent discussion may occur, and from where I cannot be traced (or at least it's sufficiently unlikely). But I won't get any emotional relief from it, either.

I had a friend who died by suicide a few years ago. The scary part is that I am certain he came to that conclusion and course of action logically, for reasons I certainly will not list here. And I have come to those same conclusions, except I do not have the cajones to actually go through with it, and I am scared of death. But it will come for me in the blink of an eye anyway, no matter what I do.

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