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Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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I hesitate to write that I am depressed after reading so many tragic and heartbreaking comments... My everyday life just seems so good in comparison.

I've recently graduated from a university and I have my first full-time SWE job as a backend developer. Although I really like my job and I can barely imagine a better workplace, I really dread my everyday life.

Working 8+ hours every day is soul-crushing to me, and with all other errands and a good sleeping schedule, I barely have time and energy for the other things in life that I enjoy. Dating, working out, being social, finding a place to live, as well as being quarantined is just overwhelming with a full-time job, I feel.

Since I've been getting negative work reviews, I called a career counselor. When he said that "I got to man up and prioritize my work above everything else", I was severely depressed and suicidal.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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No. I normally wouldn't post since it probably comes off as insensitive, but since every comment seems to be talking about how depressed people are, I will give a counterpoint.

I've been pretty blessed. I was working remotely before COVID so it didn't really affect my life much other than being way more restricted in where I can travel. I've been nomadic the last couple years so the travel restrictions were an adjustment, but there are still places one can travel to. I'm currently in one of those countries that had no restrictions. Unfortunately it's looking like they're going to start making businesses close at 9pm, which sucks but isn't a huge deal since I can still work out of my favorite coffee shop during the day.

I find that my happiest times seem to be correlated with:

1. Having goals, and subsequently purpose and meaning. Doesn't have to be career-related by the way, can be a hobby or caring for a loved one

2. Having a sense of community with real in-person human contact. Intimacy is good to have too, or at least avoiding a complete lack thereof.

3. Accepting that which one cannot change

I get that the pandemic has made things more difficult, but we can still control our destiny to an extent and make the most of the cards we've been dealt. I had spent 3 months in the U.S. at my parents' house bored out of my mind before deciding to fly out to a random foreign country, and have had a blast here. I could've just stayed put at my parents' house and said "but I shouldn't do anything because the pandemic", but thankfully I didn't.

My sympathies to anyone who is out of work or depressed. But I do think it's healthier to look at our mental health as something that we can influence and control through our own life decisions and mindset, as opposed to just looking at it as a disease where cure = therapy / pills (not that there's anything wrong with therapy + appropriate medication).

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can you start a gym hobby during quarantine? Haven't been to a gym in 8 months even though I still pay my pricy membership just to support them.

Garage gym. Ideally bought before the lock down. Or anywhere with a floor strong enough for a squat rack and some weights. The rack, an Olympic bar plus Olympic sized Ezy bar, a bench and an assortment of plates and ideally a plate holder and some thick rubber mats is all you need. Has been an amazing help for myself through some tough periods lately. Also ditto on Stronglifts 5x5.

Nobody who lives in a city can do this. I can't even do jumping jacks in my apartment without pissing off my neighbors. And this time of year, it's always raining so I can't do it outside. It's incredibly depressing.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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Nowhere else to post this so here it goes. I lost my job in January. From January - March I started looking for a job and then COVID hits at the height of my search, now suddenly no one is hiring and all the businesses are slowing down. My girlfriend of 13 years left me the day after my birthday in June before I had a chance to propose to her, I had to return the ring, she had no idea and I never told her about it. I…

Ouch. I feel you.

My girlfriend of 5 years broke up with me when I was considering proposing. It totally knocked me off the rails for some time. Suddenly all my ideas for what the future held turned to dust. I can't imagine how much more of a gut punch it must be after 13 years, especially in our current world.

It's hard to suddenly have to try and define yourself, your life and your future without including that other person. It takes time, and effort, and a certain amount of deliberate action. Be kind to yourself, and take your time.

Covid makes all this so much harder. One of the things that helped me was getting involved with a local theatre company (doing the tech side of things). Just being with other people really helped, and doing something new was invigorating. I'm guessing that sort of thing isn't an option right now, but perhaps consider something like that next year. In the meantime, anything you can do, join or take part in that can give you a bit of purpose and structure to life outside of work will help. But I know all that is easier said than done right now.

If you need someone to unload on let me know. I didn't always have that and it sucked.

The only other thing I'll say is watch out for the booze and food. I feel lucky to have not fallen into alcoholism, but looking back I was closer than I realised at the time. It always gives me the chills thinking about how things nights have turned out.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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Remote work is not for me. I'm struggling pretty hard. I miss people. I miss my sense of being good at the parts of work that involved people. I'm shit at working alone. I'm not productive like some are, and all my best assets were how I could support people around me and help them love what they were doing. All I have left of work are the parts that make me feel badly every day. Fuck this pandemic.

I am not trying to be dismissive, I understand missing people, but why can't you support people around you in a remote environment? You can pair with someone, or have informal chats, or plan some online game with your colleagues, have presentations in your team around work or non-work related things, setup a book club. It is harder and not as good as in-person interaction, but maybe you can get some good out of it. E…

Hey, thanks, I can feel your good intentions.

It's hard to put a pin on why it feels like more than you're seeing. Part of it is that I'm asking for so many of these de novo supports when coworkers are so much more independent. The fixes happen easily, but need comms and planning that mostly only brings marginal benefits to me. I mostly leaned on ambient energy and indirect attention of others -- e.g., my best "need to be productive" days came from sitting in a common area and making sure my screen faced out, so my sense of pleasing others kept me accountable. Other ways are possible, but it's hard to reinvent your whole way of managing yourself, esp when it mostly feels like a solitary effort, I guess?

Anyhow, thanks for hearing me out. I know it might not sound like it makes tons of sense. It's a layered failure of all my prior mechanisms for happiness and satisfaction in work

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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I was miserable before it was cool. Before the pandemic, I had a development job in the neighboring city. I'd take a 2 hour commute each way, and when I got home, I'd immediately collapse, sleep, wake up, and head right back to work. I didn't check my phone, my voicemail, my email, or call anyone. Just sleep. I rarely ate. I listened to a lot of death metal during that time. The pandemic hit, and I lost my job, then…

I don't mean to attack you, but why wouldn't you just move closer? Your weekly commute time multiplied by your hourly salary is likely significantly more than the increased rent, no matter where you lived. I've never understood why people make those choices.

Those types of choices are not often made for money-based reasons.

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #128

Remote work is not for me. I'm struggling pretty hard. I miss people. I miss my sense of being good at the parts of work that involved people. I'm shit at working alone. I'm not productive like some are, and all my best assets were how I could support people around me and help them love what they were doing. All I have left of work are the parts that make me feel badly every day. Fuck this pandemic.

Same here. I am extroverted (for a SWE) and bad at staying focused when nobody is around to peek at my screen. Work at a company where everything needs to be signed off, things need to always be clearly communicated, etc. so constantly having to context switch projects while I’m blocked on waiting for someone else to stop ignoring me. The one thing that makes me happy about my current job is fixing support tickets. B…

> bad at staying focused when nobody is around to peek at my screen

omg yes. It's hard to communicate to people this need for coworking and co-presence. I've tried over the years to ask for always-on remote presence tools -- always-on video or audio. Some people seem to think of these as micromanage-y employer-driven tech, but it truly helps me stay motivated and reduces anxiety/depression. Like I don't want anyone's explicit help or project management (though check-ins on one another are nice imho), but just your conscious human presence. I'm incredibly distraction-prone, but working in service of the humans around me is what helps keeps me in check.

If you're also energized by support tickets, I'd venture a guess that The Helper is a high type for you too, if you were to do the Enneagram personality test :) https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-2

Re: Ask HN: Are you depressed?

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post #451

I hesitate to write that I am depressed after reading so many tragic and heartbreaking comments... My everyday life just seems so good in comparison. I've recently graduated from a university and I have my first full-time SWE job as a backend developer. Although I really like my job and I can barely imagine a better workplace, I really dread my everyday life. Working 8+ hours every day is soul-crushing to me, and wit…

Dude your career counselor is a fool. Awful advice.

Fire him and get yourself to a doctor and proper therapist pronto. You are worthwhile and your brain is telling you lies, like any proper health condition you need to get some medical help with it, nothing to be ashamed of.

You are worthwhile don't forget it. You can and will get better, go sort out some help and everything in your life will improve.

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