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Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by yodelshady »

I really don't think Twitter's problem is "not right-wing enough". Woke Twitter hasn't produced any great thinkers, because the core concept discourages it. Conservative Twitter would be the same. In fact, modern conservatism seems to mostly be paranoia.

If I was going to make a social media platform (I know, this is YC... it's not my sphere of interest but maybe it should be), I'd rate limit everyone to one post per day. I'd also ban short (Let's encourage thought, research and yes, silence. Listen first, then only say things if they are worth taking a long time to say.

Making money off this is left as exercise to the reader.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by BearsAreCool »

wyoh wrote: post #261
ardy42 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 1. Tech platforms are uncomfortable with certain viewpoints expressed on their platforms and seek to limit these viewpoints. For the most part, those "viewpoints" are verifiable falsehoods, conspiracy theories, and other types of disinformation and misinformation. For instance, the recent migrations to Parler are chiefly people who want to deny the legitimate US presidential election result and spread false claims…

There's sufficient statistical incoherence to warrant skepticism about the US election.

I've dug a fair bit into the statistic based claims and most of them just don't hold much water. The benfords law one that picked up steam being the main one I dug into, I even made a nice repo with fancy graphs but the meme had died out by the time I finished so I never shared it. However the main summary was "Benfords law just doesn't work for proportions of a precinct"

However, if we want to go deeper into the rabbit hole, if there was a coup to steal the election I'd expect there to be ample fake claims of election stealing that would be easy to debunk.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by afrojack123 »

cmsefton wrote: post #264
dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I've long held the opinion that Twitter and Facebook are just content in the medium, a bit like complaining about Sky, CNN or Fox on TV without looking at television itself and the impact it had on communication. The internet has brought communication to everyone that travels at incredible speed. This has the effect of causing emotive responses, rather than reasoned. Requires no effort at all to respond, and encourag…

Yes and Twitter is FAKE NEWS. It is a known STATED LAW that electorates decide the president. This system was designed by Hamilton to prevent a popular but unfit candidate from becoming president. When somebody stated this on Twitter, Twitter gave this is information may not be correct warning. It is the LAW. Twitter fact checked the law.

If Twitter was willing to mind its own business, Parler wouldn't exist.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by iso1210 »

alkonaut wrote: post #304
raffraffraff wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't that just reinforce the echo chamber? I don't actually use Twitter or Facebook, and I deleted my Reddit, so I'm not the one to talk. But my wife uses Twitter a lot and has managed to get into conversations that are very hard to keep civil. She has found several approaches that work without blocking. 1. Only enable notifications and DMs from mutual follows. People who get into pile ons don't tend to follow the…

> Doesn't that just reinforce the echo chamber? Yes. Twitter is fantastic only if you accept that you can’t have arguments on it. It’s just not a good idea. But not all conversation requires disagreement. Also: I use Twitter as a news feed. I don’t tweet, just read. For me it’s the successor of rss.

Twitter is the kind of place to tell you SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

I'm not sure where John Cleese would be, but I don't think it would help

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by BlueTemplar »

Kye wrote: post #348
dustinmoris wrote: post #118

In mid October I deleted almost all my tweets and likes (but Twitter being so shit they are still showing my likes except it’s not liked anymore lol) and have not been tweeting anything anymore. I found Twitter too toxic, it made me angry with people for no reason, so I deleted all my tweets and the app. No more notifications, no more “just checking Twitter quickly”. I now go to Twitter like once a day just to have a…

I had to accept recently that anything trying to emulate Twitter will suffer from the same problems. I wrote about it: https://kyefox.com/2020/09/17/mastodon-shows-its-stripes/ Since then, my favorite instance was killed by a bunch of irony-poisoned instances ganging up on it to convince others it was a toxic hell (projection!) and defederate from it. The instance was basically dead within a week as people migrated o…

Wait, I thought that post length was NOT limited on Mastodon ? (That's why I never used Twitter - 140 characters is just too short - I'm not a poet !)

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by timpattinson »

afrojack123 wrote: post #353
cmsefton wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've long held the opinion that Twitter and Facebook are just content in the medium, a bit like complaining about Sky, CNN or Fox on TV without looking at television itself and the impact it had on communication. The internet has brought communication to everyone that travels at incredible speed. This has the effect of causing emotive responses, rather than reasoned. Requires no effort at all to respond, and encourag…

Yes and Twitter is FAKE NEWS. It is a known STATED LAW that electorates decide the president. This system was designed by Hamilton to prevent a popular but unfit candidate from becoming president. When somebody stated this on Twitter, Twitter gave this is information may not be correct warning. It is the LAW. Twitter fact checked the law. If Twitter was willing to mind its own business, Parler wouldn't exist.

if the system was designed to prevent a popular but unfit candiate from becoming president, it's been broken since 2016.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by refurb »

LatteLazy wrote: post #223

It’s worth noting that the first thing Parler did was start censoring anyone unsupportive of their form of conservatism. They’re not offering freer speech, they’re offering a safe space. Maybe that’s a seller, maybe it’s not, but it’s an important distinction. This is really just /r/conservative taken to its logical conclusion.

Do you have an example of what was censored?

Was it "I disagree with Trump's approach to foreign policy..."

or was it thousands of spam messages?

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by Tenoke »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #349

It’s sad because these companies had a very easy solution to activate once we got in the season. Simply limit how far something can go viral. Let any family photos take precedence. Let at most 1000 people view any news article, and shadow ban the rest.

I don't go to Twitter for family photos and very much want to see what's popular in the circles I follow so this seems like a horrible solution there. Maaybe for Facebook that makes sense but I still follow some Pages and Groups there and this would make it worse for me.

Re: Conservatives flock to Parler, claiming censorship on Facebook and Twitter

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Post by input_sh »

afrojack123 wrote: post #353
cmsefton wrote: post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've long held the opinion that Twitter and Facebook are just content in the medium, a bit like complaining about Sky, CNN or Fox on TV without looking at television itself and the impact it had on communication. The internet has brought communication to everyone that travels at incredible speed. This has the effect of causing emotive responses, rather than reasoned. Requires no effort at all to respond, and encourag…

Yes and Twitter is FAKE NEWS. It is a known STATED LAW that electorates decide the president. This system was designed by Hamilton to prevent a popular but unfit candidate from becoming president. When somebody stated this on Twitter, Twitter gave this is information may not be correct warning. It is the LAW. Twitter fact checked the law. If Twitter was willing to mind its own business, Parler wouldn't exist.

...but Parler launched over 2 years ago? I guess you could argue that it wouldn't receive an influx of new users recently, but it'd still be very much here, even without Twitter's fact-check.
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