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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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I'm inclined to say that there is a small handful of cases where apps should actively prevent/modify screenshots: * apps that show sensitive personal info (e.g. credit card numbers, SSN, etc.) should ideally self censor the sensitive info to help prevent accidental leaks * corporate devices where the phone and all of the data within it belongs to the employer

The real solution would be making the images directory not a free for all. There should be an OS filepicker which gets used to allow an app access to photos rather than the app having access directly. That way a screenshot is not instantly leakable.

It isn't a free for all already and that's not a "real solution" as there's a real need & use for some apps to have access to some/all images. Such as those that do automatic backup & syncing of them.

What's missing is just a user override of "no really screenshot this that wasn't an accident", that's about it.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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post #189

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Yes. Taking a photo with a separate device is reasonable evidence you're not breaking secure boot et al. If I understand correctly.

that can't be true because nothing would stop them from taking a screencap and then photoshopping it over a different picture

Or just displaying whatever graphic they want full screen on a phone and taking a photo of that.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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post #137

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Simplest way is to use another phone to take a screenshot

This year, sure. Next year's phones will probably refuse to photograph copyrighted design elements. But that's OK because you can always use a film camera and develop it yourself and hand-deliver a print.

Next up, "secure" screens will fill their backgrounds with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EURion_constellation

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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post #80

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You can re-lock the bootloader with your own signing key on Pixels. GrapheneOS seems to be the only third party ROM currently taking advantage of it.

There is another called Replicant IIRC. But it requires you to set up your own build + signing server in AWS.

https://github.com/dan-v/rattlesnakeos-stack

I haven't tried it, but I believe part of the reason that AWS is recommended is due to the build time.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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post #307

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Apple does the same thing with the ECG feature - it’s frustratingly disabled on my Apple Watch for regulatory reasons based on region.

They tell you up front though, as far as I know they’ve never sold a health sensor into a country and then disabled it later, which is what it sounds like parent comment is describing

I have a Samsung Galaxy S8+ I used the SPO2 sensor all the time. Then I think it was last year (2019) when it was removed without warning. But like I said Samsung probably buried that info in 5000 lines of an update notification.

I can understand new devices being sold would not have the device enabled due to some patent or legal issue. But to have Samsung disable a physical device on a two year old phone is frustrating. I bought the phone I own it Samsung shouldn't allowed to do such a thing or at least make it more obvious and give the option to opt out of the change.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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post #345

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> Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY Samsung disabled the oxygen sensor (SPO2) on their phones for Canada. For other countries they moved access for the SPO2 feature further into the Samsung Health app. But for Canada SPO2 sensor access is gone not accessible. No warning (probably buried in an email) just one day…

Same frustration with samsung, they always undo settings I customized buried deep in the settings menu somewhere and this constant cat and mouse game trying to figure out what has changed so I can change it back to my preferences is infuriating to say the least. Respect my menu settings Samsung, you lost a customer for life! I'm all in on Apple when the right black friday iphone deal drops later this month.

This is the same reason I dropped Windows completely recently. I kept having settings changed and would have to make group policy to get them to stick. Not allowing me to turn of automatic updates really grinded my gears too.

What happened to letting the user at the very least have the choice to just disable all of the hand holding?

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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> Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY Samsung disabled the oxygen sensor (SPO2) on their phones for Canada. For other countries they moved access for the SPO2 feature further into the Samsung Health app. But for Canada SPO2 sensor access is gone not accessible. No warning (probably buried in an email) just one day…

If you’re geeking out on health data, would you entertain an Apple Watch? It features an O2 sensor which to my knowledge hasn’t been neutered. Do you think it’s a patent issue? I recall Apple modifying the active noise cancellation in the AirPods Pro.

I'd love an Apple watch, but they don't support even basic functionality with Android (albeit maybe due to hardware incompatibility). Seems like they miss a market to be honest, Apple Watch is clearly the best on the market.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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It is abused, just not widely. I have seen a few apps that use it. There should never be a situation where the user is not able to screenshot their own device.

I'm inclined to say that there is a small handful of cases where apps should actively prevent/modify screenshots: * apps that show sensitive personal info (e.g. credit card numbers, SSN, etc.) should ideally self censor the sensitive info to help prevent accidental leaks * corporate devices where the phone and all of the data within it belongs to the employer

I can agree with corporate policy, however I don't need my banking app or my web browser (private browsing mode) deciding whether I know how to handle a screenshot securely on my own device. You certainly won't find these restrictions on a Windows 10 machine running Chrome. Why should it be on mobile?
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