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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by berdario »

jlokier wrote: post #74
swiley wrote: post #66

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>make banking apps not work anymore If you live in a country where you have to use your phone for banking and can't use the web then you need to talk to your politicians. That seems like a pretty extreme violation of your freedom. As much as I dislike the US at least we don't have that.

Some banks and bank-like products only make themselves available by mobile app. It's a commercial decision, and seems to have been a trend with some "challenger" banks. I have two of those, and I chose them because of unique banking features (not the mobile app) not offered by other banks which I found valuable. It's nothing to do with the country. To be honest it would be nice to have web access as well (or even pho…

I recently opened 3 bank accounts.

It's not only the challenger banks: nowadays banks will also encourage you to use their app for 2FA. You can use a proprietary token instead, but you'd have to pay for it (the app instead is free). 2FA sms is not supported with some banks (and that's good).

I think the UK is an exception, since for 2 of the banks I had accounts with, they just used a 2nd "memorable" password as "2FA" (avoiding the requirement of a smartphone)

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by m4rtink »

yiyus wrote: post #97
swiley wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>make banking apps not work anymore If you live in a country where you have to use your phone for banking and can't use the web then you need to talk to your politicians. That seems like a pretty extreme violation of your freedom. As much as I dislike the US at least we don't have that.

In which kind of bubble do you live where not making web apps available for your clients is seen as an extreme violation of freedom? As long as it is possible to go to the bank to do whatever you need to do, I do not think politicians have anything to say. Sometimes you don't have to, but it's much more convenient. For example, I can use my bank app just with my fingerprint. To use the web app, I either have to login…

Dictating what you can use on a device you own or else they won't do business with you is rude & clear violation of one's freedom.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by m4rtink »

fsflover wrote: post #221
reaperducer wrote: post #205

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Sorry but it is not really your phone if it runs proprietary software There isn't a mobile phone on the planet that doesn't run proprietary software at some level.

Strictly speaking you are right, but Librem 5 [0] is going to get Respects Your Freedom certification from the Free Software Foundation, which is a high bar. If it's not enough for you, see also: Precursor [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5 [1] https://www.crowdsupply.com/sutajio-kosagi/precursor

Also PinePhone is much closer to the ideal on a practical level than Android/iOS phones.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by anonymou2 »

supernova87a wrote: post #222
anonymou2 wrote: post #110

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Sorry but it is not really your phone if it runs proprietary software. It is like in medieval times, you didn't own the means of production. Welcome your new digital overlords!!

There is a kind of half-formed philosophy out there which believes we can get back to some false utopian small-collective agri-mercantile worker paradise. It doesn't exist, and never did. Learn how to adapt and make the most of the systems that exist now. I dare to say, if you even actually achieved those fantastical scenarios, the damper on economic and population prosperity would be such that you might not have bee…

Make the most that the owner of the proprietary OS allows you to. I am very thankful of all the people that have been writing free (as in freedom) software which allows us to have alternatives. I do not know about any small-collective agri-mercantile worker paradise, but I am so happy that I can still run Replicant and use things like Mutt+vim+gpg for email. Free software is now more important than ever.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by machello13 »

m45t3r wrote: post #204
umvi wrote: post #194

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> "Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app or your organization." To me that implies Android supports individual apps locking down your device so that you can't use certain features (like screenshots) while the app is open.

iOS and PS4 also does have this block if the developer wishes to do so (generally for "security" reasons).

I don’t think iOS does have a way for apps to disallow screenshots. Do you have a source?

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by m4rtink »

Today they take away the ability to make screenshots - what will they take away next ? Being able to run your own scripts and binaries ??

No! They already took that away in Android 10... https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Termux-and-An...

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by artificial »

dghughes wrote: post #290
_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

> Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY Samsung disabled the oxygen sensor (SPO2) on their phones for Canada. For other countries they moved access for the SPO2 feature further into the Samsung Health app. But for Canada SPO2 sensor access is gone not accessible. No warning (probably buried in an email) just one day…

If you’re geeking out on health data, would you entertain an Apple Watch? It features an O2 sensor which to my knowledge hasn’t been neutered. Do you think it’s a patent issue? I recall Apple modifying the active noise cancellation in the AirPods Pro.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

The upgrades being provided are for the purpose of maximising the value to you of what you paid for with your money (and nobody else's).

It is not like the company is making ongoing changes that benefit the company's business at your expense.

(This is satire.)

In some cases, life is easier when you decide "I do not have a choice". This allows complaining to be substituted for having to make hard choices and taking responsibility for the consequences.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by lern_too_spel »

nexuist wrote: post #224
lern_too_spel wrote: post #133

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This is a bug with incorrect handling of the .nomedia file. iOS already doesn't allow you to disable location services. That is intended behavior.

What are you talking about? You can easily disable location services on any Apple device.

But if you disable location services, you cannot get your location at all. This is unlike more privacy-respecting platforms like Android, which let you get your location from the GPS sensor without enabling location services.

Suppose Apple occasionally sent "anonymized" screenshots back up to Apple as part of "screen services." You could say you could disable screen services by not turning on the display, and that is what disabling location services is like on Apple devices.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by ericmay »

shawnz wrote: post #212
gst wrote: post #193

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One benefit of blocking sideloading is that it prevents people who have brief access to your phone (border agents, police, etc.) from installing spyware apps on the phone. On iOS those people can extract your data as local backup, but they won't be able to install any unapproved apps that run in the background and that monitor you. On Android it's trivial to install spyware apps via sideloading and regular users most…

Right, and so on platforms where sideloading is allowed doesn't it make sense to restrict the ways in which apps might be able to see the screen contents of other apps, for the benefit of the user? It's the same justification in both cases: ensuring the user's data stays private. I would prefer no screenshots over no sideloading if those are the only options.

Sure, but iOS users such as myself prefer no side loading, primarily because I see no reason to side load any applications.
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