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Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

smolder wrote: post #240
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people don't have the money to afford to own an entire factory, and if they did its still more secure for them to diversify by owning many pieces of many factories in different industries, that's why capitalists figured out how to commodify the means of production as stocks. Its not quite the same, its better.

It's not strictly better, no. As a minority shareholder in Google I have effectively no power to make them stop ruining the internet. Majority control is what gets you something like full ownership, just with some other risks and benefits.

Majority control requires a lot of wealth, you don't have majority control of Google because you don't have that much money. You have no reason to expect a person like yourself to be able to control the amount of capital assets that Google represents. Your access to the means of production is dependent on your ability to buy into them and stock allows you to do that in small increments. If it weren't for stock you still wouldn't have control over anything like Google.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by chordalkeyboard »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #257
chordalkeyboard wrote: post #150

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You do if you own stock.

And what can you do with it?

You accrue the benefit of owning capital which is rents on capital in the form of dividends.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by ziml77 »

dheera wrote: post #127
_odey wrote: post #38

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Won't unlocking the bootloader make banking apps not work anymore? Had this issue when I tried LineageOS on my old phone, and I really like the convenience of those apps as opposed to using the website, which is extremely bad. Also, how do I do all you said above? (I need a step by step tutorial). Also is it reversible? Are there any other security implications?

> Won't unlocking the bootloader make banking apps not work anymore? Is it not possible to unlock the bootloader but modify the OS tell apps that the bootloader is locked no matter what? Can we do this with Xposed?

It's a cat-and-mouse game and unfortunately over the past handful of years it's been a losing battle for root hiding. It's why I gave up bothering with root despite having done it for nearly a decade.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by rendall »

reaperducer wrote: post #201
jtxx wrote: post #186

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Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

There’s still a lot of dev work to be done An incomplete choice is not a choice. He wants to cross a bridge without paying a toll. Telling him that he can take a rickety bridge, an unsupported bridge, build his own bridge, or wait for a new bridge to be finished doesn't get him to the other side.

I crossed that bridge when I came to it - trip trap! trip trap! trip trap! - and lo! I heard a voice: "Who is it what cross my bridge? I am very hungry, and I will eat you up!!" Shuddering in fear, I told the hungry troll "I am but a tiny me. You should eat my brother who comes along soon!" The greedy troll, let me go, and I watched from the bushes as the troll gobbled up my brother. I was sad, but then remembered that I am still alive, not eaten

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by indymike »

WesolyKubeczek wrote: post #181
indymike wrote: post #175

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The shot->image-process->save->share cycle takes user time, and is an inconvenience that some people will even pay money to avoid. Since we're talking about screenshots, we're actually talking about typically, developers, tech writers and marketers who are automating their day-to-day workflow.

Shot - share to your fancy shmancy editor that puts a phone frame around it - put a frame around it - save somewhere. Here, simplified that for you. You can totally make an app that streamlines this and doesn’t cast doubts on its privacy hygiene at the same time.

Actually, other than being humorous, you just said, do it the way I want you to without any understanding of why a user may not want to do it that way.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by shawnz »

ericmay wrote: post #300
shawnz wrote: post #212

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Right, and so on platforms where sideloading is allowed doesn't it make sense to restrict the ways in which apps might be able to see the screen contents of other apps, for the benefit of the user? It's the same justification in both cases: ensuring the user's data stays private. I would prefer no screenshots over no sideloading if those are the only options.

Sure, but iOS users such as myself prefer no side loading, primarily because I see no reason to side load any applications.

Have you considered that even though you don't need it now, you could at any time in the future have some kind of disagreement with Apple about what kind of apps should be allowed on iOS (consider the Fortnite issue for example) and by that point, vendor lock-in would make it impractical to change platforms?

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Post by DonHopkins »

jtxx wrote: post #186
_odey wrote: post #27

You can use scrcpy ( https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy ) to bypass the policy if you really need to have a screenshot. All you need is to have a Linux laptop at hand, debug mode enabled, and a USB cable plugged in. Super simple stuff right? (this is satire!) Now, I'm as frustrated as anybody else here that I'm forbidden to use whatever feature I want from MY phone, for which I paid, with MY MOENY (and nobody else'…

Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

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Post by detaro »

DonHopkins wrote: post #327
jtxx wrote: post #186

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Linux phones!!! There’s still a lot of dev work to be done but this is exactly why I’m on board with the pinephone. not a daily driver yet, but if you’re a programmer looking for something to contribute to, go check it out

Linux is only free if your time is worthless.

Parent comment says nothing about it being free (indeed rather the opposite re time investment), so what's the point of this response?

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by fwip »

amelius wrote: post #287
smadge wrote: post #276

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Yes. For example when you take a screenshot of a message in Snapchat, the sender is notified.

This sucks and I consider this a serious breach of privacy.

It's a feature to protect the sender's privacy.

Re: Taking screenshots isn't allowed by the app after upgrading to Android 11

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Post by solinent »

snupples wrote: post #285
solinent wrote: post #282

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> it's obvious that this is a bug If someone were to prevent screenshots intentionally, and I had mal intent, I would make my best effort to make it seem unintentional.

Yes. Yes. First assume malice. Then any wild explanation will do.

Well, I don't assume malice, I can stay in a superposition. It could be malice, it could be incompetence, and it's important to be able to discern between the two, and that's purely contextual.
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