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#631

It's amazing. My friends on the left think the only reason for voting trump is racism, and friends on the right think the only reason for voting biden is socialism. Where did all the intellect go? The social dilemma documentary I think is very useful. It feels like social media bubbles are a large component, although of course there have been many contentious elections in the past. Being centrist I can relate to part…

Was there ever intellect? Or we more generally selected gentlemen as politicians and we stepped out of that with Trump?

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#632

The thing that will sit deep within me for at least the next few years is that, no matter how you slice it, a vote for Trump is complicit acceptance of his divisive and harmful behavior. Of course you don't need to be a racist to vote for Trump, but you do need to fear the other options so much that you agree that his behavior and the way that he represents our country to the rest of the world is tolerable compared t…

From what I read Trump’s has many character flaws. That’s an understatement.

He is, however, one of the few presidents in the past century, to have avoided starting a new war.

Biden has a record of participating in a government that supported intervention in Syria and Ukraine, and his family benefiting from it, (whether legitimately or not is not my concern).

For this reason I have reluctantly preferred Trump to Biden.

What do I do now, how would I continue to participate in a society full of people who think and feel like you?

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#633

My biggest concern is how seemingly so many conservative people are becoming huge conspiracy theorists. I don't mean normal conspiracy theories like there being something more behind the JFK assassination, but like QAnon, Bill Gates injecting people with microchips, Pizzagate, etc. A lot of people in my own family in a rather backwards state believe that stuff. It's making me completely lose faith in this country and…

It's not as if other countries are lands of gold and honey... I live in Europe, and there are also anti-lockdown Covid-skeptics around here screaming "The goverment has turned authoritarian and is slowly turning us into sheep!" (luckily they're in the minority). And surely they are or will be vaccine-skeptics.

It seems truth has become subjective. I tried to talk to a QAnon-spouting girl and posted links to Snopes or The Guardian. She said, "Well, MSM is owned by the Rottschilds so you can't rely on them to tell the truth.". I never asked where she read this, but she probably would've replied she figured this out by reading some random Wordpress blog or watching some nutter on YouTube.

I thought "So, you believe those sources and think my sources are lying?!?". But wait, from her point of view, this sentence is also true! One could try asking them to check the reputation of their sources or dig deeper, but it seems this is an exercise in futility. When there are actual doctors arguing against Covid restrictions or publishing flawed studies on hydroxychloroquine, how do we trust who is reputable? (I'm talking about Didier Raoult, who now also has conspiracy theorists championing him as someone the French government "ousted" because he wasn't towing the party line).

Then again, there are utterly stupid conspiracy theories like the Wayfair one: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53416247 ; the idea that secret cabals would use publicly accessible online shops to traffic children is laughable, but the people who believe this sort of thing doesn't get that the real human traffickers (is a sad fact that they're out there) probably knows how to communicate in secret.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#634

The thing that will sit deep within me for at least the next few years is that, no matter how you slice it, a vote for Trump is complicit acceptance of his divisive and harmful behavior. Of course you don't need to be a racist to vote for Trump, but you do need to fear the other options so much that you agree that his behavior and the way that he represents our country to the rest of the world is tolerable compared t…

> The thing that will sit deep within me for at least the next few years is that, no matter how you slice it, a vote for Trump is complicit acceptance of his divisive and harmful behavior. ...

How many Biden voters would approve of his full-throated support for the Iran and Iraq wars? How many support his current stance against Medicare for All? How many would defend the Obama administration's escalation of the Drone Wars (assuming they're even aware it's going on)?

The bigger question here is how many Americans were voting for the the least terrible option?

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#635

What is really keeping me up at night is the existential problem the US faces for the next 50 years: the ever increasingly large divide that is the polarizing of the electorate. We have to come together as Americans or someone will divide and conquer us.

I personally subscribe to the idea that week need to kill the self serving two party duopoly[0] Part of the problem is the candidates the parties are fielding. I know lots of people who view trump, clinton and biden as corrupt. None of them are good candidates. 0. https://freakonomics.com/podcast/politics-industry/

Duverger's law has a lot of redundancy in our current system. If you implement something like IRV on the state level for presidential elections without handling the Electoral College, then you've just further increased the odds of Republican presidencies.

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#638
I'm glad we got Trump out of the white house. But I'm still skeptical.

The growing divide and threat of civil war ( not going to happen btw ) are nothing compared to what will happen in the next 50 years of we do not have a green new deal.

Climate change, and its little brother over fishing and unchecked exploitation of our environment, is an existential threat to the human race. Bernie took it seriously. Warren took it seriously. I'm not convinced the new establishment takes it seriously. We need radical action YESTERDAY. More business as usual is not going to cut it.

Furthermore, the new administration doesn't believe in Medicare for all. They plan to do nothing about the currently broken system which causes 40% of people who are diagnosed with cancer to spend their entire life savings and often go bankrupt as a result of something that is not at all their fault.

Democrats down ballot got massacred, well progressive policies like decriminalization of drugs, and raising the minimum wage passed with large margins.

I'm glad we won but this was a mess and we're still not getting towards where we actually need to be: preventing the apocalypse

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#639

To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…

>Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton then we are not where we are today.

Sanders would have lost too, once Trump begun to paint him as a socialist commie. Oddly, O'Malley would have won easily.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

#640

What kinds of investments can one make to capitalize on a Biden victory? For example: * If Biden will be weak on China, do we expect Chinese tech companies to perform well and if so, how can we get exposure to that? Some China tech ETF? * Biden will likely support a lot of green endeavors, and so Green ETFs could be a good BUY. * If there is a blue sweep, then there could be a massive stimulus, which would mean lots…

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