Jailbreaking Used Teslas

Post by sudosysgen » Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 4:54 PM UTC

thefounder wrote: post #76

dragosmocrii wrote: post #74

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I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business

You pay for software updates/upgrades on your PC, right? Like it or not you don't own rhings anymore. Neither software or hardware. Everything is going towards subscription models.

Post by lotsofpulp » Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 4:59 PM UTC

busterarm wrote: post #44

marcinzm wrote: post #15

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As I understand it, if you buy a non-salvage used car from another individual then the package follows the car. If you buy a salvage car then the package does not follow it as the car is officially junk (it also loses warranty, etc). If you buy a used car from Tesla they will remove the package before sale. There's one case where Tesla apparently messed up and didn't remove the package from a car they re-sold until a…

Telsa is junking out cars with minor fender damage and no frame/battery problems because they don't have the labor pool available to recertify their cars. The insurance companies would much prefer minor repairs than to write off the whole asset, but they can't get quality work done to the asset. This practice is driving up _everyone's_ insurance rates.

Post by Pet_Ant » Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 5:02 PM UTC

dragosmocrii wrote: post #74

ydlr wrote: post #60

How long until Tesla (or any manufacturer) remotely disables the ignition on all used cars until the new owner pays them to turn it back on. Its only fair. After all, the new owner just bought a hunk of metal from the previous owner. They still need to purchase a license for features like starting the car.

I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business

Post by dragosmocrii » Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 5:03 PM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #81

dragosmocrii wrote: post #74

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I remember when Tesla issued that paid software update to make your car accelerate 0-100 a 0.1 seconds faster. If the hardware is there unchanged, why should the software update be a paid upgrade? It means the software was not good to begin with. Seems to me Tesla is trying to model a software development business, but they forget they're in the hardware business

Bro hardware with improper software can break or kill. They pushed the hardware in advance because .. it's 'hard'ware. Then they tried optimized motor control. If they gave you beta motor logic they'd have to fix whatever would burn or fail.

Post by FpUser » Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 5:04 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #38

kadoban wrote: post #34

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They don't need to act like a charity and nobody expects them to. They should decide if the features are a purchase or not, if they are why are they taking them back? If they're not, why are they selling them like purchases?

I don’t see anything in my purchase agreement that indicates you own it or can resell your Autopilot license. Agree the messaging could be improved.