If I buy a Tesla (Car A) with FSD, then sell it and buy a new Tesla (Car B, without FSD), do TSLA enable FSD on Car B? Do they view it as a property of the account, and any Tesla for the account has FSD? Or do they view it as a property of the specific vehicle that somehow vanishes in a transaction?
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#12First, if a dealer advertises a car with a feature and the car is missing that feature, then you have recourse -- with the dealer.
Second, how does Tesla even know that a car has changed owners? What triggered Tesla disabling the feature at this time for this car?
I mean look, if you want to sell your Tesla back to an official Tesla dealer and they have an agreement with Tesla to disable software add-ons before reselling... then that's Tesla's right. But then the purchaser would never have seen any extra features enabled in the first place -- there would be nothing to complain about.
So what is actually going on here?
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#13All I want is the work truck equivalent. I don't want all the features. I want it to be cheap and just have basic features. It needs to be reasonably repairable too.
Edit- I've always missed the true small trucks like the 90's era rangers and b2000's. I feel like that's an excellent place for a new ev truck startup to begin. The new rangers and colorados are as big as the old f-150's.
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#15As I understand, The FSD package (and I guess the performance package too) is linked to the car, not your account. It doesn't follow you from car to car. Then, what is the justification of Telsa's " you did not pay for it" given to second hand owners as seen in this article? This is really disingenuous and in total contradiction with Musk's "your car is an appreciating asset".
There's one case where Tesla apparently messed up and didn't remove the package from a car they re-sold until after sale. I can't find any other cases of that or removing packages during private sales.
edit: This seems to be about Tesla discouraging salvage cars rather than private sales of non-salvage cars.
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#16Battery safety and compliance testing is going to be a big industry in the next decade as a result IMO.
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#18If I buy a Tesla (Car A) with FSD, then sell it and buy a new Tesla (Car B, without FSD), do TSLA enable FSD on Car B? Do they view it as a property of the account, and any Tesla for the account has FSD? Or do they view it as a property of the specific vehicle that somehow vanishes in a transaction?
It follows the car but, iirc, at least the Tesla certified preowned cars get it reset before they are resold.
Then it would seem to me, in the Jalopnik article that Tesla was just in the wrong in this instance. They could have disabled the feature when they sold the car, but once they transferred title of it and it retained that feature, they should no longer be able to revoke that feature.
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#19If I buy a Tesla (Car A) with FSD, then sell it and buy a new Tesla (Car B, without FSD), do TSLA enable FSD on Car B? Do they view it as a property of the account, and any Tesla for the account has FSD? Or do they view it as a property of the specific vehicle that somehow vanishes in a transaction?
It follows the car but, iirc, at least the Tesla certified preowned cars get it reset before they are resold.
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#20All I want is the work truck equivalent. I don't want all the features. I want it to be cheap and just have basic features. It needs to be reasonably repairable too.
I'm wondering how the Cybertruck will care on that front. Aren't other Tesla models pretty awful on the repairability front? I bet there's a market niche for what you're describing